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| A grade E offence carries a ban of 4-8 games so as there was no injury inflicted to the letter of the law 4 games plus 1 for the punch looks to be about right anyway, that'll do so much for "he'll be like a new signing" see you next year you fool
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| Quote: Wiganpieman "I thought eye gouging or a poke in the eye often hurts yet if you look at the clip Harrison was not in any pain or even knew he had a finger across hes eye. why? Because no finger was inserted in Harrison's eye come on the first thing anyone does when any pain in the eye is to put your hand up to your eye to feel the amount of damage done and Harrison knows that Hock did not hurt him one bit in the eye department. I am all for banning on eye gouging but come on this boils down to an agenda towards Hock lets be fair,'"
Your joking right?
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| Quote: Fearnhead Cross "Your joking right?'"
Have you read Ben Harrison's take on it??
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| Guessing you missed the pain written all over his face then?
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| Quote: Fishsta "That said, I'm confused how Whitehead, a player with a very good disciplinary record, gets 5 for a bite that didn't cause any damage, whilst Hock, whose record is probably one of the worst in the game, probably caused more discomfort to the player affected than Whitehead did, gets 4 for an EQUIVALENT infringement?'"
Well that is probably because he didn't cause more discomfort given Harrison's lack of reaction. So I think 4 is about right. What Whitehead got is irrelevant because it wasn't the same offence and if 5 was too much for that then that is a different matter.
Quote: Fishsta "I know it's the end of the season, but that's no excuse to me. What would have happened if it had been the last 30 seconds of the Grand Final? 1 match ban covered by a pre-season friendly?
He deserved a ban, and 5 matches is no doubt a lengthy ban, but where's the consistency?'"
It's going to be very hard to argue lack of consistency since gouging is such a rare offence but as has been mentioned earlier, Hock's ban is the same as that given to someone last season for the same offence. How is that inconsistent? You can argue it was too lenient but not inconsistent.
EDIT: and just saw this above : "The Committee accept that the action was not a deliberate attempt to gouge the opponents eyes. "
4 is definitely right if that is their view.
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| well said..
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| Hock's ban is the same as that given to someone last season for the same offence. How is that inconsistent? You can argue it was too lenient but not inconsistent.
Yes but with Liam Prescott last year the report states
"In deciding sanction the committee have taken into account this players previous good record and the submissions made on his behalf. If this players record had not been commendable the sanction imposed would have been more."
can the same be said for hock?
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| Quote: Wire_85 "Ends his season and possible Grand Final team place.
That will hurt him enough.'"
Yes missing another final will hit him more than anything the RFL will throw at him. He missed last season GF with a ban and was not in the side at Wembley. I just hope he now learns from this, he is still potentially a great player but he needs to curb his aggression especially given the game was over.
As for the punishement handed down i do think he has been a bit lucky with 5 games but RFL do tend to go for the minimum penalty for any offence if the player has no previous for that offence. I know he has just come off a major ban but i am talking about on field rather than off.
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| Quote: deginner "Hock's ban is the same as that given to someone last season for the same offence. How is that inconsistent? You can argue it was too lenient but not inconsistent.
Yes but with Liam Prescott last year the report states
"In deciding sanction the committee have taken into account this players previous good record and the submissions made on his behalf. If this players record had not been commendable the sanction imposed would have been more."
can the same be said for hock?'"
They viewed the Liam Prescott incident to be deliberate gouging and he also pleaded not guilty, whereas Hock admitted guilt.
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| Quote: moonlight flit "And here they come , right on queue !
Get real pal ,
Mr Hock is one real fruit case , and you know it .
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| Quote: WELTON VILLAGER "Get real pal ,
Mr Hock is one real fruit case , and you know it .'"
you met Mr Hock then? Just because he's a hard nut on the field, doesn't mean he's a "fruit case"as you call it.
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23997_1287161421.jpg [quote="Mark"]Great game of rugby league. Fantastic atmosphere, Wigan were breathtaking and dominant in all areas for the first 25 minutes, coupled with us making alot of dumb mistakes,then fortunately they brought McIlorum on which helped us back into the game. I thought some of the tries we scored to get us within two we're out of this world stuff. Towards the end we had to force it a little and we had a few things go wrong, i.e Monas kick on the first for King and Solomona going off who was causing havoc. Wigan were clinical in their eventual execution of us. Proud of Wire today and gave us a little glimpse to the future. Silverwood was awful as per, but I expect no less. Tomkins is a world class player and by far the best english player in SL. Wigan are a champion side and would be a worthy winner of taking our title as challenge cup. Good luck over the next month and a bit.[/quote]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_23997.jpg |
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| What as our game become?
The ban for the gouge fine no arguments with that he got off lightly but 1 game ban for a punch and it's not the first time this season it's rugby league not football
I miss the days they used to sort it out with a scrap then get on with the game you wont be able to tackle next......oh wait
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| I just think Hock is an idiot and will he ever learn?
Many will not agree including my son but if I was in charge I would get rid, I do not want people like him in my Wigan team. He is a good player but being a better influence is more important. He is only back for about 6 matches and cannot control himself, therefore get rid as he does not deserve the support he has had already.
In my opinion he has had a chance that rarely happens in other situations and has now abused the chance. Basically no more excuses grow up and be a normal person if not disappear.
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| 5 matches - DISGRACE TO THE, OR ANY, SPORT -
If, he did go for it - FOOL
Gouging should be sign die - end of
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