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| Quote: Conroy "www.cockneylatic.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f
I find it extremely sad TBH... I have a bit of banter with Latics fans... but some people are so angry its sad... I love rugby and have done for 20 odd years... but I have also frequented to the jjb and springfield park to watch the latics on occasions and although I cant get as passionate as I do for the rugby... I still enjoyed myself...
The whole problem between latics/warriors is partly down to "tribalism". We as human beings... have an natural desire to be part of a group or tribe... Whether it be rugby, football, churches, chess club tiddlewinks.... etc... This is our natural urge and when tribes are formed they create belief streams.. and these are reassured by the "group"... therefore hatred breeds by a pure lack of understanding between groups and breeds the hatred even further... we see it in all walks of life whether is chav groups on the street corner or within the office/workplace.... I think we human beings believe we are above other animal species... but when you examine us closely we are nothing but animals ourselves with our own broad set of characteristics... there is always going to be exceptions to the rule....
The sad things is that although many within both clubs won't admit it... neither the football or the rugby is going to consistently fill the stadium while the disrespect/animosity between the fans of the two clubs remains...
Does part of the problem also lie with the fact that many fans of the latics are also supporters of other local rugby teams such as St helens/wire/widnes etc??..
To be accepted into a club you have to feel part of the club... Should we be "Men" enough to hold out the olive branch?
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| Quote: WarriorSteve "
Does part of the problem also lie with the fact that many fans of the latics are also supporters of other local rugby teams such as St helens/wire/widnes etc??..
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I'd say it works the other in the majority. Go back to the 80's & 90's, most footballing supporting Wiganers had families who'd supported Man U, Liverpool and Everton and had done for generations, all this was going on whilst Latics struggled to get 2,500 at SP. I know loads that 'jumped on the Latics bandwagon' when they arrived in the Prem, majority of which have gone back to Man U, Liverpool now...etc. |
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| Quote: MattyB "I'd say it works the other in the majority. Go back to the 80's & 90's, most footballing supporting Wiganers had families who'd supported Man U, Liverpool and Everton and had done for generations, all this was going on whilst Latics struggled to get 2,500 at SP. I know loads that 'jumped on the Latics bandwagon' when they arrived in the Prem, majority of which have gone back to Man U, Liverpool now...etc.'"
I know a few who were Spurs (Why, I still don't now) ManU and Evertons fans, who are now Latics through and through...Fair play to em... but do liverpool and united fans hate wigan... not really(maybe a few), but wire/saints fans dislike us... which I guess adds to a few to the WiganW hatred bandwagon!!! |
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| Quote: WarriorSteve "I find it extremely sad TBH... I have a bit of banter with Latics fans... but some people are so angry its sad... I love rugby and have done for 20 odd years... but I have also frequented to the jjb and springfield park to watch the latics on occasions and although I cant get as passionate as I do for the rugby... I still enjoyed myself...
The whole problem between latics/warriors is partly down to "tribalism". We as human beings... have an natural desire to be part of a group or tribe... Whether it be rugby, football, churches, chess club tiddlewinks.... etc... This is our natural urge and when tribes are formed they create belief streams.. and these are reassured by the "group"... therefore hatred breeds by a pure lack of understanding between groups and breeds the hatred even further... we see it in all walks of life whether is chav groups on the street corner or within the office/workplace.... I think we human beings believe we are above other animal species... but when you examine us closely we are nothing but animals ourselves with our own broad set of characteristics... there is always going to be exceptions to the rule....
The sad things is that although many within both clubs won't admit it... neither the football or the rugby is going to consistently fill the stadium while the disrespect/animosity between the fans of the two clubs remains...
Does part of the problem also lie with the fact that many fans of the latics are also supporters of other local rugby teams such as St helens/wire/widnes etc??..
To be accepted into a club you have to feel part of the club... Should we be "Men" enough to hold out the olive branch?'"
There's an added problem now. Whelan.
Despite the good things he did for the RL in the past, what happened last year was seen as a betrayal of the club and proof positive that all the 'support' he's given us in the past was little more than an attempt to placate us while in the background he worked on his real project - making Latics into the town's main sports club.
I don't think there'll ever be a coming together of these clans while Whelan is involved. |
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| Quote: Conroy "www.cockneylatic.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f
Absolutely hilarious reading! 
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3. To them, having a stand named after Billy B is the same as calling a stand at Anfield the Dixie Dean Stand.
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[quote="Pemps":1dso5atj]I can't confirm Bennett's exact words but I believe they were along the lines of "Strewth Ian, I wouldn't touch him with yours. He's a flammin' Gala". [/quote:1dso5atj]
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| I love how they refer to Jason Roberts as a Latics "LEGEND" ha ha ha ha
just shows how small time they are |
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| Quote: robliv4eva "Talk about spitting the dummy out. Some highlights for those who cba reading the thread
Yes, but if only 60% of our fanbase is from Wigan and 80% of Latics' is from Wigan then is Wigan a rugby or football town?
Both sides get around the same amount of HOME fans every week. Wigan is a SPORTING town. Simple as that.
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| Quote: tugglesf78 "I love how they refer to Jason Roberts as a Latics "LEGEND" ha ha ha ha
just shows how small time they are ![]()
Well what defines a legend? Scoring the goals to take you to the PL? Scoring the goals to keep you there? Scoring the goals to take you to your first major cup final (including a last minute winner in the semi)?
JR ticks all them boxes. Like most players though he moved to a 'bigger' club who then finished below us in the league.
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| Quote: Conroy "Well what defines a legend? Scoring the goals to take you to the PL? Scoring the goals to keep you there? Scoring the goals to take you to your first major cup final (including a last minute winner in the semi)?
JR ticks all them boxes. Like most players though he moved to a 'bigger' club who then finished below us in the league.'"
A legend is someone who consistently serves a club for the majority of their career who bleeds the colour of the club, not someone who wins you a few matches over 2 years, would you consider Barrett a Wigan 'Legend' Lyon a Saints 'Legend' legends are players like Kris Radlinski, Shaun Edwards and Billy Boston. Wigan Athletic have no players past or present of this type. Hence the 'Springfield Park Stand' |
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| Quote: Mother Feka "A legend is someone who consistently serves a club for the majority of their career who bleeds the colour of the club, not someone who wins you a few matches over 2 years, would you consider Barrett a Wigan 'Legend' Lyon a Saints 'Legend' legends are players like Kris Radlinski, Shaun Edwards and Billy Boston. Wigan Athletic have no players past or present of this type. Hence the 'Springfield Park Stand''"
We do. Just not modern day.
This is the online definition of a legend
8. Archaic. a story of the life of a saint, esp. one stressing the miraculous or unrecorded deeds of the saint.
9. Obsolete. a collection of such stories or stories like them.
Due to the points I made I would say JR could be classed as a Latics legend. |
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