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| Quote: Jukesays "Hes had a difficult/poor 12 months (when I say 12 months I'm basing it in rugby terms I.e from 1/3rd away through last season to Aug this year 1/3rd of this season). All of it started with the head injury/concussion, and let's not forget that some.players never recover from things like that.
But since his return, apart from the HKR game where EVERYONE was awful Greenwood has shown up well. Is he going to make 50 tackles every game, no. Is he going to take the ball up 25 times a game and make 200 yards, probably not.
Comparing him to Isa doesnt donwother of them any good, on fact it shows up what is lacking in both of them.
But the issue is, can he fit into the squad and offer something different to what others can.
Answer is Yes.
He was one of our better players against Saints and stood up well to their bigger more physical forwards. He runs good lines and is more of a handful in the opposition half and offers a different type threat.
Glad to have him back something like, good on him'"
I agree Jukesy. There seems to be an overemphasis on what he doesn't bring and an undervaluing of what he does. He's never going to be aggressive but he certainly seems to be making strides on toughness. The clash of heads last night was a bad one and last season would have seen him off the field for the rest of the game. Last night he was back on and made a significant contribution to the win. Let's give credit where it's due.
He brings another dimension to our attack and does things our other options in that position can't. Moreover he operated well on the right last night (something we've been continuously told he can't do) which meant we could keep Faz in his most effective position whilst still adding an attacking threat on the right.
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| Returning to the thread title, Zak was outstanding last night. He seems to bleed Cherry and White. There were many doubts and doubters when he signed, which was understandable given his track record, but he genuinely seems to have got himself on the right track and his passion for the shirt is a joy to see. Long may it continue.
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icons077e_files/5454-3678dentheman-msnicons.jpg Fans Forum 28.08.08 Fan from Haydock
"I've got one word for you Mr Chairman - Penalty Count"
[quote="The Daddy"]I've got one word for you all......Steve Hanley[/quote]
Some Salford fan said to me and I quote "You are by far and away the most Handsome & Knowledgeable Rugby League Fan in England!"
I thanked him and went on my Merry way!
RIVERCAVE DWELLER OF THE YEAR 2015!
"The club used you last night and didn't tell the truth."
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Quote: Phuzzy "Returning to the thread title, Zak was outstanding last night. He seems to bleed Cherry and White. There were many doubts and doubters when he signed, which was understandable given his track record, but he genuinely seems to have got himself on the right track and his passion for the shirt is a joy to see. Long may it continue.'"
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Quote: Phuzzy "Returning to the thread title, Zak was outstanding last night. He seems to bleed Cherry and White. There were many doubts and doubters when he signed, which was understandable given his track record, but he genuinely seems to have got himself on the right track and his passion for the shirt is a joy to see. Long may it continue.'"
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| Quote: Jukesays "https://www.facebook.com/139215566100901/posts/3502791506409940/?vh
Love it! If we can maintain the passion we showed last night for the rest of the season we could still have a say.
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3076_1671446335.jpg SAINTS THE ORIGINAL AND PERENNIAL CHEATS
For sale full Saints kit (circa 1989). Shirts in pristine condition, but shorts badly soiled.
For 27 - 0 you get a trophy
For 75 - 0 you get sod all.
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| That Jackson Hastings shows no interest in playing for Wigan, no leadership, no commitment
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "That Jackson Hastings shows no interest in playing for Wigan, no leadership, no commitment
Looks like he doesn’t enjoy being at Wigan was the main point of a thread on the VT this morning.
I’ve said with Hastings before, he’s made a couple of silly comments on social media but the main problem he’s faced in his time here regards building relationships with the support base has been a global pandemic meaning he can’t interact with anybody. If that win last night was in front of 3,000 Wiganers at the Halliwell Jones, he goes nuts at the end in front of the fans and people lap it up and love the bloke.
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "That Jackson Hastings shows no interest in playing for Wigan, no leadership, no commitment
If that comment was aimed at me, Brian, you'll see my comments related to his attitude and performance against Salford and that game/team alone. I have not changed my opinion regarding that one iota. If he shows the same commitment that he did last night the next time we play them then...and only then...will I reappraise my opinion.
Just to emphasise my point:
Last night: 36 tackles and 111 metres.
Against Salford: 13 tackles and 56 metres
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[quote="Frank Zappa":1sacjrvf]Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe.[/quote:1sacjrvf]
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "That Jackson Hastings shows no interest in playing for Wigan, no leadership, no commitment
Can't believe he did that pre season u-turn. Really bad how he never joined us
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| Quote: NickyKiss "Looks like he doesn’t enjoy being at Wigan was the main point of a thread on the VT this morning.
I’ve said with Hastings before, he’s made a couple of silly comments on social media but the main problem he’s faced in his time here regards building relationships with the support base has been a global pandemic meaning he can’t interact with anybody. If that win last night was in front of 3,000 Wiganers at the Halliwell Jones, he goes nuts at the end in front of the fans and people lap it up and love the bloke.'"
Last player to keave the field at every home game we played
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| Quote: Egg Chasing "Last player to keave the field at every home game we played'"
Exactly and given more time, more big away games especially, he would’ve got everybody on side I’m sure. His effort on the field has been great and it’s really sad he’ll probably leave this club without having had the opportunity to really build a bond with our support. He had those few games early in the season but has been robbed of a lot of others.
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| Quote: NickyKiss "Exactly and given more time, more big away games especially, he would’ve got everybody on side I’m sure. His effort on the field has been great and it’s really sad he’ll probably leave this club without having had the opportunity to really build a bond with our support. He had those few games early in the season but has been robbed of a lot of others.'"
Wigan fans are fickle. He is a top player who I don't believe we are getting the best out of. I don't care if a player sulks, doesn't interact etc. as long as when he is on the field he gives it everything for his mates and the fans and Jackson does that. When he leaves his knockers will only move onto someone else. I remember the great Brett Kenny winning the Lance Todd Trophy in 1985 at Wembley, he was absolutely fantastic. When we lost to Saints in the playoffs our fans blamed him for the defeat, I rest my case.
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| Seven pages of comment! But not all about ZH?
Anyway, I fully agree with the comment on page 1; I was also one who didn't particularly want him here, but his effort and application have been spot-on and it's clear he was certainly won doubting fans over. Is he the best centre in the comp? No, but he's got to be one of the first on the team-sheet now, and I hope he stays in the long term.
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| You'd imagine he will be back at full back next year so great to see him in such good form.
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| Quote: Sweaty Betty's "When we lost to Saints in the playoffs our fans blamed him for the defeat, I rest my case.'"
So did a certain player
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| Quote: Sweaty Betty's "Wigan fans are fickle. He is a top player who I don't believe we are getting the best out of. I don't care if a player sulks, doesn't interact etc. as long as when he is on the field he gives it everything for his mates and the fans and Jackson does that. When he leaves his knockers will only move onto someone else. I remember the great Brett Kenny winning the Lance Todd Trophy in 1985 at Wembley, he was absolutely fantastic. When we lost to Saints in the playoffs our fans blamed him for the defeat, I rest my case.'"
To rest your case you actually have to have proven something. Saying some fans blamed Brett Kenny for a defeat 35 years ago proves absolutely zilch about Jackson Hastings now. The same fans probably don't even follow the club anymore and regardless of whether they do or don't the fact that he was a great player and played a blinder in the Wembley final says nothing about his performance in the Saints game. I've read many independent accounts that say he didn't want to know in that game. I can't profess to know whether it's true or not but his playing well at Wembley certainly doesn't automatically prove (or even suggest) that he played well in the Saints game.
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