As of yesterday Wigan had sold 9723 STs
Saints had sold 9600. who'd have thought eh.

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I know, who'd have thought that after a year away from st helens, the first year in their brand new state of the art ( ) stadium, St Helens still cant sell as many season tickets as Wigan Rugby League. FIOS. Wonder what the comparison will be in 2013 when the novelty has worn off?

Yep, nearly 2000 more season tickets for this year than last year's average, who'd have thought indeed.

Wigan and Saints both look like they'll sell 10,000 season tickets each for the first time in a very long time (if ever).

Hardly something to snipe at from either side. Along with teams like Leeds, Hull, Wire etc the leagues looking in reasonable shape especially when you consider improved sales at clubs like Huddersfield who've struggled in the past and a club like Widnes who'll pull more fans in then Crusaders.

Exactly - I can see attendances panning out something like the below, which could be fantastic for the league and would give SL an average attendance of over 10k, with 6 teams averaging over 10k and 3 just falling short, hopefully to push on in the next few seasons and break the 10k barrier. With a bit of effort and push from Catalans / Huds / Hull KR, they should be realistically looking at breaking the 10k barrier in the next 3 years which would give us NINE teams averaging over 10k, and hopefully the remainder (Wakey / Salford / London) getting their act together to get reasonable crowds of say 7k, looks very good for the league going forward!

Wigan 16k
Leeds 15k
Saints 15k (New ground with 10k ST should mean 15k is achievable - especially when you would expect Salford / Widnes / Wigan / Wire as sell outs)
Hull 13k
Wire 13k (should get sell outs of 15k against widnes / wigan / saints with near sell outs for Leeds & Salford further to their extension which should push an average up to around 13k hopefully)
Bradford 12k (with their cheap as chips season ticket incentive again)
Catalans 9k
Hull KR 8k
Huds 8k
Widnes 7-8k
Cas 7k
Salford 6-7k ( the new stadium can at least make their gates reasonably credible)
Wakefield 6k
London 5k ( the re-branding has some effect)

Before knocking saints i want to big well done to them as our season ticket sales when we moved was nowhere near 10k if i remember our average was only 10536 so both clubs have come along way in attracting fans.

I think you need to put that into perspective though. We were one of the first clubs to move into a new stadium and a lot of our supporters resisted the move away from Central Park. We lost quiet a few supporters for a number of years and I think a lot only came back during our battle against relegation in 2006.
Since then fans of other teams have realised that a new ground is the only way forward and clubs fans at the likes of Hull and Wire have embraced the idea and inceased their fan base. Saints are in the same position and as such they should experience an increase. I am not knocking that, good luck to them, but the situation is slightly different to when we moved out of Central Park.

I agree. I still know fans to this day who became disillusioned with the way the club was being run and how the ground had been handed over 'on the hush' and haven't been back since. Where as all Saints fans were desperate for a move to a modern stadium, Wigan fans were desperate not to move away from their spiritual home, instead opting for full renovation (bearing in mind the club had paid millions upgrading the Boston Stand).

Good post

Does anyone have attendance figures from our final years at CP & early years at DW/JJB?

These would be much appreciated.

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Outstanding service
What was our first season in the new horrid place, again?

Viewing on my iPhone. (nightmare)

Could anyone sum up the last few years average attendance at CP and the years at JJB please?

Hope I'm not inconveniencing anyone lol
Sure you'll all ignore me if so