You've also lost to Hull, Huddersfield, and Catalan in the last 6 weeks.

Those were freak results against teams that clearly gave up. The early challenge cup rounds are only going one way. They're pointless exercises.

A very good point !

It's quite simple.

The GF is now THE showpiece event for RL.

Previously it used to be the CC final.

End of.

The gulf in class between Super League and the NL1 is too great, making it effectively a mid season version of the play offs. Too much hassle

85.217.... Attendance for the 2010 CC final

It's quite simple

The CC final is THE showpiece event for RL

That's partly down to Wembley being bigger than OT

The rounds leading up to it certainly arent though.

Like Quins v Crusaders you mean?

Every league game leads up to the GF.

most of the people complaining about it obviously havent really experience the cup,
why get rid or change something that has been around for donkeys, brings loads of money in, brings loads of good games,
promotes the chances for the kids, i bet loads of teams played more kids than they would do normally.
the cc is the best thing about rl, i dont like the grand final or the concept, it should be a league, a cup, and (imo) a state of origin series.

According to Ian Lenagan this is very true. Depending on how we progress in the CC, the club will make between £75,000 & £200,000 at the end of the season.

A club makes more from CC games than the the play-offs.

Its the biggest competition in the wrold of rugby league.
all the aussies know it, they all want to play in the cc

In which case it's criminal that it isn't treated with more respect by the BBC, Sky and the RFL.

If it's our flagship tournament (which I once would have agreed with wholeheartedly), then it needs to be promoted far more than it currently is.

rugby league is run by a bunch of spinless mice, who wont fight for the game if it needs it,
the main fella made his name in tennis for god sake.

The support for the CC is there, though. Union fanboys often accuse League of being a sport no-one's interested in, obviously they're not happy when you point out that the Challenge Cup Final attracts more spectators than their all-time attendance record... which is nowhere near the RL all-time attendance record.

If the SL Grand Final wants to be the premier event, it needs a bigger stadium.

I remember back in the early 90's when the draw was being made. There was always an air of excitement and fear. If you drew Wigan it was pretty much curtains however secretly that was the tie that everybody wanted especially at home. These days there doesn't seem to be that same excitement. I don't think the tournament should be changed at all, I just think it needs a spark. Whether it'd be a giant killing, a Wigan style cup run, a classic final or a big name Aussie flying over just for the final it just needs that little something.

It's still IMO the biggest and best knock out tournament in world rugby league and there is no need to change something that has worked well for over 100 years.