Those highly paid players who had even better salaries to go to next season have gone through the motions this year, desperate to avoid injury. Good riddance to them.

Here's to a 2022 with a squad of players who want to be here and are worthy of being here.

Completely agree. If anyone deserves a chance it's Peet. Like you said, his remit is defence and that's probably the one area that's been strong this season. After that he's served an apprenticeship under Wane too.

There's two things I don't buy into as well...

1 - Peet is a continuation of the current regime. Wane changed things when he took over from Madge, Why is everyone so sure that Peet won't have new ideas? He'll need a new attack coach but, as Peet has proven, a coach can make a big difference when it comes to stuff like that.

2 - We need to go to Aus. I always shake my head at the magic "NRL No.2 bullet" that fans call for. For every Madge, there's a Price. Peet has been a number 2 under Wane FFS, I'd take that schooling over some of the coaches in the NRL. Outside of that - there's no one available. Look at the candidates that got touted for Wests. You had an assistant from Penrith (who turned them down), then it was Flanagan (great coach) + Woolf & Wane. Hardly the greatest shortlist.

It's been a constant this season. The problem we have is that none of that team last night know how to pass or when to pass. We had:

Singleton, Powell, Partington, Farrell, Bateman and Smithies in the pack. Not a passer amongst them unless you count Powell who is slow as treacle.

One half in Smith who is technically poor with too many passes missing their mark and whose first instinct is to kick anyway and another half who either passes well before the line or gets caught in possession. Neither passes at the line.

One centre who is a second row and not renowned as a passer of the ball and one who has forgotten how to pass.

A fullback who has never been a passer of the ball throughout his entire career.

Is it any wonder we're not breaking teams down? Since SOL retired we have no one with a defence splitting pass in them. We're therefore reliant on individual brilliance, which without French has been in short supply or scoring from kicks. Unfortunately our kicking game has, for most games this season, been woeful too.

Lammy summed up his delusions last night post game when he answered Jenna Brooks question about our poor attack by saying it’s a game of inches, as though he really does believe we were unlucky. She asked him what’s next for him and he said he’ll make that decision in the next two weeks. I can only imagine it’s a choice between postman or window cleaner because rugby coach can’t be on the table.

Agreed.

The fact we are losing Hastings, Clubb, Gildart, Bullock, Manfredi, Bourouh + possibly Leuluai and can only afford 2 fringe NRL forwards and 2 championship players is unbelievable.

That's also on top of last year losing G.Burgess, J.Burgess, O'Loughlin, Flower, Greenwood, Escare, Navarette, Sammutt and Wells. And we signed.... Bateman and Field.

The 4 new Aussies (I'm including Field here) have less than 100 first team appearances coming into a young and unbalanced squad.
History tells us that the majority imports don't really work out that well so let's be generous and say 2 are a success.
If Miski can catch a ball he will be a success with the games current measurement. If he can take the ball in for each set as well he will be a great success. If scores more than 10 tries we will look to name a stand after him.
If Ellis can keep hold of the ball, play 40 minutes and be tough he will be deemed a success.

Our expectations and aspirations are truly laughable.
On paper and I except that its on paper there is no improvement and not a dot of stardust to assist in putting bums on seats.

Thornley was at Leyth for a reason. Nobody else wanted him. Wane got shut of him once so i can only assume that KR signed before the penny dropped that Lam was useless and he needed to sort things out on the coaching side.

I think that there other changes potentially in the pipeline.
Will Field stay? Has he gone? A very hard situation for the lad and the injury just about topped things off. We havent got a clue if he is any good. Jeeze we dont even know his best position
If he goes it wouldn't surprise me to see TL doing another year. He's been a great clubman but woefully past his sell by date.

It looks like Hardaker will go and presumably swapped for Miller. Leeds did a job last on Hardaker and any team can replicate so if he goes I wouldn't lose much sleep. Don't know what to say about Miller other than uninspiring.

I think Clark has another year on his contract? Who in their right mind will match his current terms?

I think we will see other changes with the young guys. Wouldn't surprise if Shorrocks goes - not sure if im that bothered but I think somewhere within the lad there could be a decent rugby player.

Not wanting Peet on my is totally illogical on my part and I except that. I just don't want a repeat of 2016 and 2017 were I gave away my season ticket mid season because of the appalling "rugby". With Wane in tandem I can see the siege mentality where fans are almost scorned and it's all about the lads.

Sorry for the negative and scornful comments but the club are in the shoite (excluding monetary issues) due to inadequate and woeful senior management decisions where even a blindman could see things deteriorating from a mile off.

The ‘going rate’ for the young players nowadays must be unbelievable. It all just doesn’t make sense. I can’t help be sceptical about the 73k comment tbh. It would actually make me feel better if they are pulling the wool because if not, well jeez, who has been negotiating these deals?!

Give him his due though he did resolve our goalkicking issue. Summat to put on his CV

I can’t sit here and say I’m buzzing with the signings myself mate but I just can’t see that we’re weaker. Will it be enough? Probably not. Do we want bigger/better signings? Absolutely. Are we stronger? We have to be IMO based simply on the fact that other than Hastings, the other exits won’t be felt in the slightest based on this season. In fact if most had left prior to this season, I doubt we’d have noticed the difference.

Having extra bodies shouldn’t be a yard stick for judging the quality of your squad/team but with French and Field thrown in the mix, there’s no way we can be weaker. The place needs a shake up and I hope Peat (with help from Wane) can bring that. I’m prepared to give him a shot, as I did with Lam. I’d have pulled the trigger on Lam after 6 months and I may well be sat here in July next year saying it’s time for Peat to go but he deserves people’s support from day one. Very much like the signings, he can’t be any worse than the guy he’s replacing.

Having lost another semi final and been nilled again without looking like scoring, he said he couldn't have asked for anything more from us.

He was in the land of delusion again on Wigan TV saying its a game of fine margins as Harry Smith would have scored before Leeds' try if he'd caught Bateman's pass. In reality even if he'd caught the ball he'd have been instantly clobbered.

It was right in front of us and there’s no way he’d have got over. I was sort of hoping Lam would just come out last night and front up for the mess of this season but it was the same old deluded story. I was just glad he had the sense not to come round to the fans with the players. I have far too much respect for Lammy the player to have given him any stick but he’d have got the rounds of the kitchen from many fans. It would’ve left a sour taste because I’ll personally just try and remember his playing stint, when he was superb.

Sad ending to Lam's career with Wigan but he's done to us what Cunningham would've done to Saints if McManus hadn't seen sense and pulled the trigger, statue outside the ground or not.
Safe to say we're in a far worse state than when McGuire took over, turning things around is going to take some doing.

Agree with that but there is one silver lining and that is just how abysmal superleague is at the minute. Leeds were dire last night for starters. Saints are the top dogs but as much as anything that is because they’ve been able to actually go backwards from Holbrooks spell but the rest of the teams refuse to improve. That Catalans team is nothing special and Wire are Wire. Cas have gone backwards, Hull are just drifting and HKR have shown that you can get a play off spot via a good coach and a few journeymen but I doubt they’ll be trotting out at Old Trafford anytime soon. The rest are much of a muchness and we’ve been able to beat them even playing like this and that says everything.

The games on its backside, which isn’t good but it won’t take much to turn things round IMO. One or two really savvy decisions and you’re back in business.

The issue I have with Peet is it completely misses the point of what we are trying to achieve. Strategically it makes no sense whatsoever. If we were currently a steady ship, flying high at the top of the table and winning things, an appointment from within, to essentially continue current set ups and cultures etc is a great appointment. Its exactly why Wane made sense at the time of Maguire leaving, despite him gradually eroding that IMO (but that's another story).

What the club desperately need now is change. New thinking, new ideas and approaches, not only to get us performing but to get bums back on seats and ensure that the club doesn't continue to drift into steady decline. Last night there was approx 5.5k home fans on (that's wigan latics territory and we all saw what happened to them...it simply isn't a sustainable fanbase).

If we appoint peet, there is nothing new. No real change, no real impetus, just a continuation of what we have been doing - poorly. Even with wane coming back in a consultant type role, he'll only bring grit and determination....that's not really been our issue. Peet is also likely to knock a couple of thousand off our average gates as people will see the apathy and become apathetic themselves. I honestly think the difference between peet and an exciting coaching appointment is around 4-5k on average gates (2-3k either way). How many people have already said they'll give up going next season if its peet, or are holding back on ST renewals because of it?!

So for me its a stark choice of change vs same old same old.
Yes change might cost more than essentially over promoting peet, but its shortsighted in the extreme....it not only impacts where we will be on the field, but where we will also be off it...realistically i would estimate the difference in revenue through the turnstile is north of £1 million quid across the season, comparing those two options. (Average 4k x 13 games x £20 plus per ticket)
....A big coaching appointment is a no brainer for me as it ensures we get the change we need but also effectively pays for itself.