Oh No, no, no



There are a couple of posters that still need educating

The work is never done Jimmy!

Keep up the crusade

I was half expecting to read that Rogues had first made a rugby post by using Gottfried Leibniz's new fangled binary system back in the 1690's!


Does anyone know what happened to Odemwingie? His post's used to really amuse me when I think he was being serious.

I Do
Don't go there! (And if your reading Cam - I'm only joking!!!

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That's a tease of an answer if ever there was one.

Didn't realise till you said that

He's a .

After "Danny McGuiregate" he got a bit quieter.
Along with doing part of his uni course working for XXXXXX which I think made him realise sometimes you need to be careful what you say.

Cam was also instrumental in the flags etc. Of 2010/11/12 and I packed in end of 2011 due to "Differences of opinion" with the more ULTRA side of The Brigantes.
Issues over smoke bombs/face masks and other channels some of them wanted to go down.

Without going over it all too much myself/conroy/twosevenzero/rogues/wiganstriperl and a few others decided to let them get on with it (hence what happened in 2012 with the banning orders due to Huddersfield fighting and hull kr smoke bombs and eventually the end of it )
I did warn them.

Me and Conroy were the ones that organised the flags at old Trafford and put them up in 2010, the world club challenge display against st George in 2011 and got us access to Warrington for the 2 cc games; qtr and semi (which I think was best atmosphere of all of them) and the final at Wembley.

Unfortunately some people got too cocky and in their words "we can do what we want, who's going to stop us now". Allowed some unsavoury elements to get involved and hey presto, it all ended pretty quickly.

Thanks for that, and I do remember reading about the posts iirc regarding to Danny McGuire's injury. Mind you Phil Clarke's comments on sky didn't help.
The ultras may have seemed to be a good idea at the time for trying to increase the atmosphere and a sense of occasion, but like any good ideas in life it seems there are, shall we say, a less sensible element that then goes and spoils it.

I heard your first posts were in latin it was so long ago !

And ultimately that was the issue.
Myself/Conroy etc. Used to work closely with Wigan stadium safety people and through that we used to have contact with other grounds and their safety people.
Some were very accommodating and others not so much.
By sticking by the rules we were chipping away at what each would and wouldn't allow and along with that when clubs wouldn't allow things Wigan would back us.
For example for the 2011 semi final at Warrington against saints, Warrington wouldn't allow anything.
However believe it or not the RFL and the BBC supported us and asked Warrington to reconsider.
I went down to the ground 3 days before and worked with the safety people and found out what they would and wouldn't allow and we managed to agree and after the game they contacted me to praise everyone and thank us.

However as I say others wanted to go their own way and do things without seeking permission etc. I predicted it wouldn't work and I think most people will agree it's not been the same since even for those who have stepped forward in then last couple of years to try and work with the club and recreate it.

There was a lot of other work went on behind the scenes and I thought we had a good balance. We supported the club with certain things and they supported us.

We had 2 supporters nights with 100 + at each night and raised into the thousands which we split between the flag group and charity such as Wigan hospice and Macmillan nurses.
The club gave us season tickets to raffle and raise funds plus other things.
We had the merchandise selling well (300 pin badges and about 300 scarves were made and sold).

Bit of a shame, but as Brian potter said "can't go back".

Every away game now I see the same ultra faces and smoke bombs and things kicking off (I didn't post but I saw some stuff at saints away that wasn't pleasnt on both sides) and the same faces are always in the frame.

And thise would hide behind anything organised now so that's why I wouldn't do it again.