You possibly haven't been paying attention then. McGillvary always plays well against us. But the fact is he doesn't play for a particularly good team, so consequently his chances of catching the eye are limited.

But fair play to him, he has stuck with the Giants and if it is true that he is putting his own son's career ahead of his own then fair play to him on that too. I think he might live to regret that though. The chances of a youngster making it in football from City's system are remote whereas he would probably be a success in the NRL.

He's not wrong, people just throw the term 'World Class' around when what they mean is 'Very good player', it becomes meaningless. I'd say maybe the top 3 in the world in a position. Your definition is far too broad. Rhys Evans is competing at the highest level, world class he is not.

Not any more he’s not!

I agree that maybe 2 or 3 in any position is pretty much a fair representation of what could be deemed world class, although even this isn't set in stone. I've known times when there's been more than that in any given position but as an approximate 'rule of thumb' I think it works ok.

You misunderstood what I meant by operating at the highest level if you think I would include Rhys Evans in that! He's never even operated at the highest Superleague level never mind above that! The highest level (as intended in my post) is the best of the international or SOO. Nothing else comes close to that description.

back on topic if I may (???!!!) but if the likes of Bateman and Gells are rumoured to be off then I have to once again push on with the my belief we need to be signing up someone like Ben Currie.

BC could fit in at centre, SR or Loose - coincidentally the preferred positions of the (potentially) departing players. when he came on for lockers in the ENG v AUS game on Saturday I just sat there thinking, wowsers... what if...

i'd be gutted if we lost Bateman to be honest, plus surely if we lost Gells we have one recognised Centre in the whole first team squad?!

Parramatta so i've heard

Forsyth would mean 2. But whether he is first choice standard is another thing.

if the club is willing to offload the likes of two of our better players, especially at good ages with improvement still in them, while not bringing in anyone you have to start to question what IL and the club is doing...

in my opinion, I don't think Bateman or gells will go, at least not for 2018 anyway. but id practically demand replacements with immediate effect.

Bateman is destined for the NRL and we’ve known that for a long time. He’s a player firmly sitting at the world class table and would go very well in the NRL.

I don’t think this should come as a huge surprise, disappointing yes but I wouldn’t begrudge him going to the NRL. He’s been of fantastic service to Wigan and I’d wish him all the best