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| Seeing as the attendance is less than the average for a normal weekly round over the last 5 or 6 years and the fact it hasn't grown despite this being the 5th year, it's pretty simple what needs to happen to it. The fact it distorts the fixture list as well adds to my opinion it needs putting out of its misery.
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6731_1299024498.jpg [quote="King Street Cat":1wa9s43t]Some might look at this as being harsh but I think it's fair. When are the Rugby League going to stop persisting with this fantasy expansion. If it hasn't worked by now, it never will! I'm all for reaching out to a wider audience with our game but not at the expense of historical clubs in the homelands.[/quote:1wa9s43t]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6731.jpg |
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| Quote: Wigan/Leeds Andy "Seeing as the attendance is less than the average for a normal weekly round over the last 5 or 6 years and the fact it hasn't grown despite this being the 5th year, it's pretty simple what needs to happen to it. The fact it distorts the fixture list as well adds to my opinion it needs putting out of its misery.'" Are you equally as driven by numbers and figures in other areas of your life?
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| Quote: headhunter "Are you equally as driven by numbers and figures in other areas of your life?'"
If you mean do I base an opinion on a number of things, including taking account of certain facts - then yes.
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| Quote: nohalfbacks "Your attitude just about sums up the situation. You have never been but feel qualified to pass objective comment! Get off your backside and support the game or bugger off and watch another sport.'"
I support the game by buying a season ticket for Wigan, going to most away games, attending internationals when they are over here, buying international and club merchandise, supporting & donating to charities such as the steve prescott fund and the wigan warriors community fund, taking my nephew to play and train for st pats, buying him season tickets and merchandise, introducing friends and family to the game. Just because I dont believe in some stupid idea of the not so magic weekend which has NOT been a success for 5 years on the trot now does not mean that I should bugger off and watch another sport. Its idiots like you who tell fans like me to bugger off an watch another sport that are the problem, not me! Get of your high horse you idiot.
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6731_1299024498.jpg [quote="King Street Cat":1wa9s43t]Some might look at this as being harsh but I think it's fair. When are the Rugby League going to stop persisting with this fantasy expansion. If it hasn't worked by now, it never will! I'm all for reaching out to a wider audience with our game but not at the expense of historical clubs in the homelands.[/quote:1wa9s43t]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6731.jpg |
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| Quote: 19 Leagues "I support the game by buying a season ticket for Wigan, going to most away games, attending internationals when they are over here, buying international and club merchandise, supporting & donating to charities such as the steve prescott fund and the wigan warriors community fund, taking my nephew to play and train for st pats, buying him season tickets and merchandise, introducing friends and family to the game. Just because I dont believe in some stupid idea of the not so magic weekend which has NOT been a success for 5 years on the trot now does not mean that I should bugger off and watch another sport. Its idiots like you who tell fans like me to bugger off an watch another sport that are the problem, not me! Get of your high horse you idiot.'" No, it means you should try it before you criticise. Tell me on what grounds you don't believe in it, or think it has been a failure.
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| Quote: headhunter "No, it means you should try it before you criticise. Tell me on what grounds you don't believe in it, or think it has been a failure.'"
A success would be a packed stadium each day. A success would be glowing reports, nobody coming back to say a bad word about it, players talking to the media about how much they love the day and how they cant wait to get out there. The Magic weekend has never been a success.
Its a failure because the stadium is more than half empty every time, we have actual players coming out and slating it in the media (last year, cant remember who it was) every year its just a slip-a-thon on the pitch because of the abuse its taking, we have journalists and pundits slating it in the press, people coming back with bad reviews year after year (just look at this thread, theres a few who have been and said they wont be going back)
Its embarrassing to watch. It makes our Sport look so insignificant compared to the success of RU.
Its been tried, tested and failed, the RFL should just scrap it and try other ideas. Some things work for them, as far as this goes, it doesnt.
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6731_1299024498.jpg [quote="King Street Cat":1wa9s43t]Some might look at this as being harsh but I think it's fair. When are the Rugby League going to stop persisting with this fantasy expansion. If it hasn't worked by now, it never will! I'm all for reaching out to a wider audience with our game but not at the expense of historical clubs in the homelands.[/quote:1wa9s43t]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6731.jpg |
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| Quote: 19 Leagues "A success would be a packed stadium each day. A success would be glowing reports, nobody coming back to say a bad word about it, players talking to the media about how much they love the day and how they cant wait to get out there. The Magic weekend has never been a success.
Its a failure because the stadium is more than half empty every time, we have actual players coming out and slating it in the media (last year, cant remember who it was) every year its just a slip-a-thon on the pitch because of the abuse its taking, we have journalists and pundits slating it in the press, people coming back with bad reviews year after year (just look at this thread, theres a few who have been and said they wont be going back)
Its embarrassing to watch. It makes our Sport look so insignificant compared to the success of RU.
Its been tried, tested and failed, the RFL should just scrap it and try other ideas. Some things work for them, as far as this goes, it doesnt.'" Maybe next year you can go and see how much of a failure it is for yourself
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| Quote: headhunter "That is probably the stupidest thing I have ever heard. How can people who didn't go possibly be as qualified to have an opinion as those that did.
If you couldn't make it for financial reasons, other commitments or whatever then that's a shame. Even if you just couldn't be bothered to go, I don't have an issue with that, it's a long way if you don't want to watch all the games. But if you didn't go, don't sit there and say it should be scrapped. That's what is pathetic.'"
Please read my posts in this thread and tell me where I've said the magic weekend should be scrapped?!
I actually said I think it is a good idea, just not implemented in the best way. I attended last year as I stated earlier, so I have a fair idea what the weekend is about (I know that was Edinburgh but it's the same idea). So you are saying people who don't attend, but do support OUR sport can't have an opinion? You're trying to make out that I think it's a terrible idea and this really isn't the case.
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| Quote: 19 Leagues "A success would be a packed stadium each day. A success would be glowing reports, nobody coming back to say a bad word about it, players talking to the media about how much they love the day and how they cant wait to get out there. The Magic weekend has never been a success.
Its a failure because the stadium is more than half empty every time, we have actual players coming out and slating it in the media (last year, cant remember who it was) every year its just a slip-a-thon on the pitch because of the abuse its taking, we have journalists and pundits slating it in the press, people coming back with bad reviews year after year (just look at this thread, theres a few who have been and said they wont be going back)
Its embarrassing to watch. It makes our Sport look so insignificant compared to the success of RU.
Its been tried, tested and failed, the RFL should just scrap it and try other ideas. Some things work for them, as far as this goes, it doesnt.'"
It's a vicious circle really, you decided not to bother going to the game as you heard poor reports from last season and by doing that you ensured that one seat at the millenium stadium was empty. Now think that there could be 30,000 other Rugby League fans who thought the same as you, which made what would have been a 3/4 full stadium and a complete success instead a 3/4 empty stadium and a pretty poor showing again.
What the RFL need to work hard at is persuading you (and the other 29,999) like you to get to the game despite the negative reports of this and the last few years.
I'm not sure if the RFL can turn it around, which is a shame really.
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6731_1299024498.jpg [quote="King Street Cat":1wa9s43t]Some might look at this as being harsh but I think it's fair. When are the Rugby League going to stop persisting with this fantasy expansion. If it hasn't worked by now, it never will! I'm all for reaching out to a wider audience with our game but not at the expense of historical clubs in the homelands.[/quote:1wa9s43t]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6731.jpg |
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| Quote: Dave26 "Please read my posts in this thread and tell me where I've said the magic weekend should be scrapped?!
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39110_1363272058.jpg Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot
Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good
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sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league
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Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate
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the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever
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Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go
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Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know
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| Quote: MattyB "It's a vicious circle really, you decided not to bother going to the game as you heard poor reports from last season and by doing that you ensured that one seat at the millenium stadium was empty. Now think that there could be 30,000 other Rugby League fans who thought the same as you, which made what would have been a 3/4 full stadium and a complete success instead a 3/4 empty stadium and a pretty poor showing again.
What the RFL need to work hard at is persuading you (and the other 29,999) like you to get to the game despite the negative reports of this and the last few years.
I'm not sure if the RFL can turn it around, which is a shame really.'"
The reason the RFL can't turn it round now is because of the fans negativity which stemmed from the decision to take the event to Murrayfield.
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6731_1299024498.jpg [quote="King Street Cat":1wa9s43t]Some might look at this as being harsh but I think it's fair. When are the Rugby League going to stop persisting with this fantasy expansion. If it hasn't worked by now, it never will! I'm all for reaching out to a wider audience with our game but not at the expense of historical clubs in the homelands.[/quote:1wa9s43t]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6731.jpg |
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| Quote: MattyB "What the RFL need to work hard at is persuading you (and the other 29,999) like you to get to the game despite the negative reports of this and the last few years.'" I'm struggling to find any negative reports from people who actually went, other than a couple from fans who went solely for their club's matches and were left annoyed by poor performances. Everyone I have spoken to and virtually on the forum absolutely loved the event. Myself included.
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| Quote: MattyB "It's a vicious circle really, you decided not to bother going to the game as you heard poor reports from last season and by doing that you ensured that one seat at the millenium stadium was empty. Now think that there could be 30,000 other Rugby League fans who thought the same as you, which made what would have been a 3/4 full stadium and a complete success instead a 3/4 empty stadium and a pretty poor showing again.
What the RFL need to work hard at is persuading you (and the other 29,999) like you to get to the game despite the negative reports of this and the last few years.
I'm not sure if the RFL can turn it around, which is a shame really.'"
I didnt decide to go because of the poor reports to be honest Matty. I'd probably give it a go if I could afford it, theres just too many more things in RL that im more interested in going to. I'd rather spend my money on a trip to Catalan and the rest of the away games that dont take up so much time and money overall. If the event was closer to home and just £12.50 a ticket wild horses couldnt keep me away, I worked till 12pm on Saturday also.
I just dont have the luxory of being able to afford a day/weekend at Cardiff aswell as saving up for a trip to Catalan, most away matches, both finals (i usually go despite who's playing) along with paying for my nephew aswell and my lad turns 3 in March so going to start bringing him to a few matches.
Maybe a better thing for the RFL to do would be to hold it closer to the heartlands of Rugby League, because lets face it, we're going nowhere fast in Cardiff & Scotland, the locals just dont care.
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| I also dont get this looking down on other fans because they dont go to every single game and every single event, its just snobbery.
People have different lifestyles and other things going on in their lives, RL is not the be all and end all.
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| Quote: post "Play it at Man Citys ground (Open air bars outside stadium)
Brand it as Manchester Magic
Have it in April/May on a Bank Holiday weekend
Have a trophy/prize for best performance and best try and award it at end of the last game.
If the numbers are looking low say by 10,000 capacity give 5,000 tickets away to local school kids or sell them £1 a piece to the schools in the area.
Have bands/pop acts in and around the stadium aswell as beer tents/bars and comedy tents and make it something people want to go to like a festival.'"
i like that........make it a festival.........at COM or OT at end of footy season..when its a bit warmer.
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