FORUMS > Wigan Warriors > 24 man England Squad for 4 nations |
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 3928 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jan 2007 | 18 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2011 | Jul 2011 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: Pantherman "Apart from Burrows, I'm struggling to come up with anyone good enough, which is the main problem as far as i can see, we just don't have the strength in depth as the aussies!'"
Brough over Myler any day of the week.
Guess one of either Sinfield or Eastmond have to play now as we have zero other goal kicking options
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 2905 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2006 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2015 | Apr 2013 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: thepriestman85 "Guess one of either Sinfield or Eastmond have to play as we have no goal kickers.'"
Which again highlights the problems we have. Although Sinfield has/is without doubt been a great player at club level but he has exactly shone on the international stage! As for Eastmond he is a great prospect for the future I'm not too sure he's ready for this challenge just yet, having said that he may prove me wrong ( and as far as England are concerned - I hope he does ).
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 3928 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jan 2007 | 18 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2011 | Jul 2011 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: Pantherman "Which again highlights the problems we have. Although Sinfield has/is without doubt been a great player at club level but he has exactly shone on the international stage! As for Eastmond he is a great prospect for the future I'm not too sure he's ready for this challenge just yet, having said that he may prove me wrong ( and as far as England are concerned - I hope he does ).'"
What is the England team coming to when players are picked on kicking ability rather than anything else?
International RL is an absolute joke.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 18736 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jan 2006 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2013 | Jan 2013 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: thepriestman85 "What is the England team coming to when players are picked on kicking ability rather than anything else?
International RL is an absolute joke.'"
Easy tiger. Is it a fact that they've been picked on kicking ability? N0.
It's just the opinion of someone on an internet forum.
It isn't international rugby league that's the joke, it's some of the people who claim to be rugby league fans.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Owner | 1842 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Oct 2003 | 21 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Wilkins and westwood are two 100% players but ultimately not good enough players who shouldn't get near the international squad.
We have an almost decent pack especially in the props (none anywhere as good as Whatmough (sp?) though, some new exciting (but ultimately inexperienced) half-backs but a distinct lack of quality in the backs. However in Hall and Shenton we have a definate improvement over Calderwood and Sykes from the world cup.
It really depends on what game we try and play and how the games are reff'd as to whether we are blown away or are at least competetive.
At least we have had a season where the players are not just scooting at almost every play the ball, so we have a little more experience in playing 'proper' rugby.
That said - it does show our limitations at 9 now - Roby is nowhere near the superstar he was initially hyped as - and is still living off the reputation of saint's broken field, scooting style of play. He doesn't have a proper no 9's distribution skills IMO. Much rather have seen Disco in at 9 with Moore as replacement.
Pryce has also been seen as not a international no 6 which has to be a good thing - I do think he would still make a very good full back though.....
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 16170 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jul 2008 | 16 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Feb 2016 | Oct 2015 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: LovesToSpooge "I only see one scrumhalf on that list Myler, makes me think even more that Myler only signed for Wire because smith promised him the 7 shirt.'"
Eastmond is also a scrum half, in that that is his first choice position. However, he isn't an organising scrum half - as yet, anyway - but a cocky creative one. He has also given excellent service to us as a fullback and centre, which makes him quite a talent but one we don't really know what to do with just yet!
I am glad Tomkins has been chosen because although I don't like his on field persona I do think he is really talented.
I'm also glad that all but Graham, Roby and Wilkin have been dropped from the Saints contingent. Had there been other experienced options available I would have been happy to see Roby and Wilkin dropped too but I think Smith needs to balance out the inexperience of Eastmond/Tomkins/Myler with players who do know what it is like to play against the Aussies and of the Saints contingent, the ones Smith has chosen were the ones who consistently worked hard in the World Cup even if they were ultimately ineffective (as were the whole England team).
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 3928 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jan 2007 | 18 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2011 | Jul 2011 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: Catalancs "Easy tiger. Is it a fact that they've been picked on kicking ability? N0.
It's just the opinion of someone on an internet forum.
It isn't international rugby league that's the joke, it's some of the people who claim to be rugby league fans.'"
Well if Sinfield is picked over Lockers or Eastmond is picked over Tomkins there can only be one reason and that's down to place kicking alone. Lockers can do everything plus more than Sinfield except kick for goals and the same can defiantly be said about Tomkins vs Eastmond as well.
I'll stick with my opinion that international RL is a joke and this current England team selection proves it imo. Players like Bridge & Sykes being selected as the one of the top 24 players in this country can only be described as farcical. Players like Burrow missing out for players like Myler who couldn’t even get in his Salford team is a joke as well.
I can’t see why I’m not a proper RL fan as you say because I don’t want to support a pitiful international calendar of fixtures which serves zero purpose what so ever?
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 18736 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jan 2006 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2013 | Jan 2013 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: thepriestman85 "Well if Sinfield is picked over Lockers or Eastmond is picked over Tomkins there can only be one reason and that's down to place kicking alone. Lockers can do everything plus more than Sinfield except kick for goals and the same can defiantly be said about Tomkins vs Eastmond as well.'" Your opinion, not a fact.
Quote: thepriestman85 "I can’t see why I’m not a proper RL fan as you say because I don’t want to support a pitiful international calendar of fixtures which serves zero purpose what so ever?'" Who said you weren't? Don't take it so seriously, it's just a forum.
If you think international rugby league is a joke why are you still posting about the England squad for the Four Nations?
If you're not interested in the game at international level have a great off season and a cracking Christmas. See you in February
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 3928 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jan 2007 | 18 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2011 | Jul 2011 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: Catalancs "Your opinion, not a fact.'"
In regards to Lockers I agree it’s just an opinion but Tomkins vs Eastmond is a no contest and Tomkins award proves this.
Quote: Catalancs "Who said you weren't? Don't take it so seriously, it's just a forum.
If you think international rugby league is a joke why are you still posting about the England squad for the Four Nations?
If you're not interested in the game at international level have a great off season and a cracking Christmas. See you in February
Sorry but you said the real joke are the supposed fans of RL.
The problem I have with international RL as it stands is that coaches like Smith have simply turned it into a way of improving his own clubs players imo and it’s plain wrong.
The rest of RL suffers because of the usual white wash at this time of year. I’d much prefer the season to have ended with that great game at OT last Saturday.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 18736 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jan 2006 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2013 | Jan 2013 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: thepriestman85 "In regards to Lockers I agree it’s just an opinion but Tomkins vs Eastmond is a no contest and Tomkins award proves this.'"
While I agree with you here, awards don't always prove who the better player is.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 3928 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jan 2007 | 18 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2011 | Jul 2011 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: Catalancs "While I agree with you here, awards don't always prove who the better player is.
'"
True
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 5035 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2009 | 16 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Aug 2021 | Oct 2020 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: wigan_knight "Would have like to see Owen from cas in the squad...really impressed with him everytime i see him.'"
Having an ankle operation unfortunately
And what's with all this "terrible centres" crap? Shenton is above average, it's the other centre I'm concerned about, so half the centres could be crap Sinfield should be Stand Off because he's the sort of player who can guide the team around the pitch then let whoevers at Scrum Half do all the fancy stuff.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 1693 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jan 2009 | 16 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Feb 2014 | Jan 2014 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| I think international RL is great and I look forward to Autumn and seeing the best players from here taking on the Aussies and Kiwis, i know we lose most of them but its still 'must-see' viewing for me. I'd be gutted if we give up on international RL all together.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 1541 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2009 | 16 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jul 2011 | Jul 2011 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Embarrassing
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 2543 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Aug 2009 | 15 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jun 2010 | Jun 2010 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: Dougy "I think international RL is great and I look forward to Autumn and seeing the best players from here taking on the Aussies and Kiwis, i know we lose most of them but its still 'must-see' viewing for me. I'd be gutted if we give up on international RL all together.'"
Agreed. I'm looking forward to the 4 Nations even though I know England will get whooped. It's good to see some good Rugby for once.
|
|
|
|
|
|