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| Quote: Conroy "Nobody is talking about a Wigan POV. This 'better rugby' that clubs are playing is sh*te compared to the rugby that was being played pre SC and is why GB/England are going backwards.'"
Don't confuse the poor lad with facts.
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| Quote: Deano G "Astonishing.
That would be the RU club scene that sees Zurich premiership average attendances exceeding SL, would it?
Average growth in attendances for the two leagues over the past six or seven years has been near enough the same, something like 6.5% for Super League and 7% for the RU Premiership. Their average attendance figure is approximately 1,000 per game higher. I don't know what's happened to the average attendance figures for the Welsh or Scottish leagues.
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| Quote: McClennan "Average growth in attendances for the two leagues over the past six or seven years has been near enough the same, something like 6.5% for Super League and 7% for the RU Premiership. Their average attendance figure is approximately 1,000 per game higher. I don't know what's happened to the average attendance figures for the Welsh or Scottish leagues.'"
I'd have thought it would have been much higher what with the nationwide media coverage and all.
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| Quote: Slugger McBatt "ause you have probably assembled the most expensive team in SL, because you buy in. Not many other teams could have bought Barrett, Fielden, Gleeson, Tim Smith.'"
We didn't buy Barrett or Tim Smith.
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| Quote: McClennan "Average growth in attendances for the two leagues over the past six or seven years has been near enough the same, something like 6.5% for Super League and 7% for the RU Premiership. Their average attendance figure is approximately 1,000 per game higher. I don't know what's happened to the average attendance figures for the Welsh or Scottish leagues.'"
Add that to a six nations campaign played in Rome, Cardiff, London, Paris and Edinburgh and Dublin with regular attendances we could only dream of for international games they are streets ahead of us in every aspect.
Also add the televised TWO European cups that have also been created in the past ten years and it’s sickening to even think we come close to RU.
RL is a quality game run by Muppets like Hetherington & Hood who don’t have on fifth of the vision Maurice Lindsey had for SL back in 1992.
Instead of listening to him he’s hounded out by supporters or Wakey and Castleford etc who can’t see that for the good of the game they would have had to join. We’d be in far, far stronger position now imo if necessary cuts like that would have been made at the start.
SL has a been a wasted opportunity imo……
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| Quote: thepriestman85 "Add that to a six nations campaign played in Rome, Cardiff, London, Paris and Edinburgh and Dublin with regular attendances we could only dream of for international games they are streets ahead of us in every aspect.
Also add the televised TWO European cups that have also been created in the past ten years and it’s sickening to even think we come close to RU.'"
Despite what some would like to believe, it's not all roses in the union garden. The Celtic league, Australian and New Zealand leagues are nothing to shout about attendance wise.
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| Quote: Catalancs "Despite what some would like to believe, it's not all roses in the union garden. The Celtic league, Australian and New Zealand leagues are nothing to shout about attendance wise.'"
Having small attendences is better than having none at all imo.
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| Quote: thepriestman85 "Add that to a six nations campaign played in Rome, Cardiff, London, Paris and Edinburgh and Dublin with regular attendances we could only dream of for international games they are streets ahead of us in every aspect.
Also add the televised TWO European cups that have also been created in the past ten years and it’s sickening to even think we come close to RU.
RL is a quality game run by Muppets like Hetherington & Hood who don’t have on fifth of the vision Maurice Lindsey had for SL back in 1992.
Instead of listening to him he’s hounded out by supporters or Wakey and Castleford etc who can’t see that for the good of the game they would have had to join. We’d be in far, far stronger position now imo if necessary cuts like that would have been made at the start.
SL has a been a wasted opportunity imo……'"
Super League doesn't run our international game.
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| Quote: thepriestman85 "Having small attendences is better than having none at all imo.'"
and?
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[quote="nickmanator":3hoggrzp]billy boston in todays game might pinch a spot bringin the cone on and that bein kind[/quote:3hoggrzp]
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| Quote: Catalancs "I'd have thought it would have been much higher what with the nationwide media coverage and all.'"
It will be much, much higher in a few years time, simply because many RU clubs play in front of full houses every week and have yet to expand their stadia to cope with the growth since their game turned professional in 1996.
Just to take one example Leicester play in front of a sellout crowd at every home game at the moment. Once have completed their stadium expansion and are playing to 30,000 crowds every game the differences in attendances will be even more marked than they are now.
I'd like to see a SL where Leeds and Wigan and others played in front of 20,000 plus crowds every week. It won't happen as long as ambition is stifled by the CC.
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Maybe a back up halfback, someone with a bit of experience on a short term deal.
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| Quote: Deano G "It will be much, much higher in a few years time, simply because many RU clubs play in front of full houses every week and have yet to expand their stadia to cope with the growth since their game turned professional in 1996.
Just to take one example Leicester play in front of a sellout crowd at every home game at the moment. Once have completed their stadium expansion and are playing to 30,000 crowds every game the differences in attendances will be even more marked than they are now.
I'd like to see a SL where Leeds and Wigan and others played in front of 20,000 plus crowds every week. It won't happen as long as ambition is stifled by the CC.'"
Correct and Wigan and Leeds have the potential to do so. You could say Hull and Hul KR to as the latter has 2.3 billion at Craven Park.
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| Quote: McClennan "Super League doesn't run our international game.'"
No but the two are so intertwined one can’t live without the other.
The stronger SL is and the more top quality players it produces the stronger our international games becomes.
A weak SL produces a weak GB team as they aren’t playing against good enough player’s week in week out.
SL is weak at the moment imo and not as strong as it was say even five years ago. If you want proof look at the (GB/England) team then and now;
Raders
Carney
Senior
Gleeson
Pryce
Harris
Long
Fielden
Cunningham
Morley
Peacock
Farrell
Sculthorpe
Anderson
Newton
Mcdermott
Hock, Lockers, Wellens, Burrow, Deacon etc.
That team would butcher the last England world cup team as EVERY player there, Harris apart, is hands down better than the England player of today.
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| Quote: Catalancs "and?'"
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You say it's nothing to shout about but at least they can say they've successfully gone into the Irish, Scottish and Welsh region for a prolonged period of time and been a success.
You could argue RU is the top sport in Ireland and Wales as well as the 2nd top sport in France and Scotland.
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| 25,000 Lions fans at the game in South Africa yesterday. Time to stop peeking through the window at the neighbours and get our own house in order, and that starts by getting rid of the robotic nature of SL and start encouraging flair players and characters back in to the game; they're the ones who put bums on seats, not completion rates or back-to-back sets.
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| Quote: thepriestman85 "You say it's nothing to shout about but at least they can say they've successfully gone into the Irish, Scottish and Welsh region for a prolonged period of time and been a success.'"
I wouldn't call crowds of around 3,000 a success. Two professional teams in Scotland with one already having fallen by the wayside.
Quote: thepriestman85 "You argue RU is the top sport in Ireland and Wales as well as the 2nd top sport in France and Scotland.'"
Did I?
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