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Just give him a bottle of Loch Lomands and send him on his way ffs.

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It’s time to vote with our feet.

If Lam is still there against Leeds we need to stay away.

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I hate saying it but I completely agree. Alongside Lam, Radlinski must go. The whole coaching team (I’d keep Peet and Goulding) should also go. I’m not sure what Tom Fitzpatrick is doing as S&C coach but we don’t look fitter or stronger than any side in the comp. I’d even argue we didn’t look as fit or strong as York in the Cup.

The points NK and jonh make are spot on. We’ve lost that ruthless culture to succeed. You hear it on podcasts from SW all the time that if he felt a player (or staff member) wasn’t up to it, they were gone. No hesitations or sentimentality which is ironically exactly what we’re showing Lam. There’s a long list of players and coaching staff and general staff that need to go. I just don’t believe in anyway IFL will pull all those plugs, I barely believe he’ll pull Lams plug.

The drop in standards from where we were a mere 3seasons ago is astounding as it is depressing. It’s not on, it’s not acceptable and it cannot continue. We’re f*****g Wigan. We demand better from everyone.

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Here we go again. blame the foreman and not the boss!

If the boss cannot provide the correct staff for the Foreman to work with, what chance has the Foreman got in producing better made products.

Or is it a case that the Boss cannot afford to get a better Foreman?

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Quote: Ruddy Duck "Here we go again. blame the foreman and not the boss!

If the boss cannot provide the correct staff for the Foreman to work with, what chance has the Foreman got in producing better made products.

Or is it a case that the Boss cannot afford to get a better Foreman?'"


Ask everyone at the start of the last 3 season were wigan would finish and they said Top 3
That absolutely shows he has the tools to work with

I know you want rads and IL booted out, but to try and defelct every little thing onto them his laughable.

There have been some issues with recruitment, but please don't tell me Lam is getting the best out of these lot.

10 good (maybe a couple of those were very good) out of say 80 games in charge is pathetic.

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Quote: sergeant pepper "Every single person at the club from IL to the guy who washes the kit should always be accountable.

I can't remember which podcast it was, but the topic was about developing a winning culture and how the Storm do it so well. Basically it's because every hire and every decision that is made is geared towards being the absolute best RL team out there. The culture of the place is driven from route to branch. IL used to talk about the 'wigan way' and I honestly believed it. Him, Madge, Wane, Bitcon + great players - you could see it wasn't just a marketing slogan, it was real. Tangible standards from the top down and ground up.'"


Correct

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Quote: 100% Warrior "I hate saying it but I completely agree. Alongside Lam, Radlinski must go. The whole coaching team (I’d keep Peet and Goulding) should also go. I’m not sure what Paul Johnson is doing as S&C coach but we don’t look fitter or stronger than any side in the comp. I’d even argue we didn’t look as fit or strong as York in the Cup.

The points NK and jonh make are spot on. We’ve lost that ruthless culture to succeed. You hear it on podcasts from SW all the time that if he felt a player (or staff member) wasn’t up to it, they were gone. No hesitations or sentimentality which is ironically exactly what we’re showing Lam. There’s a long list of players and coaching staff and general staff that need to go. I just don’t believe in anyway IFL will pull all those plugs, I barely believe he’ll pull Lams plug.

The drop in standards from where we were a mere 3seasons ago is astounding as it is depressing. It’s not on, it’s not acceptable and it cannot continue. We’re f*****g Wigan. We demand better from everyone.'"


I agree with all of that except Paul Johnson left the club at the end of last year.

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Plenty of effort but no go forward, no idea in attack, no kick chase, ill-discipline. Other than that all seems well.

I realise that Lam has to try and talk things up but he is in dreamland if he seriously thinks Wigan can still put a decent end of season run-in together.

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I was going to make a long post but half-way through I realised it was just depressing me, no more needs to be said. Like a lot of very long term fans I suspect the interest and feeling for the club are fading with every increasingly inept "performance" and lack of direction from the top down.

I really fear what will happen in the next game. Keep playing like this and the team are going to get a real hiding soon - if Saints were half the team they were under Holbrook they would have run up 50+

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Quote: Wigg'n "I agree with all of that except Paul Johnson left the club at the end of last year.'"


You’re right, apologies. Corrected

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https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk ... ssion=true

Tough to read but absolutely bang on.
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk ... ssion=true

Tough to read but absolutely bang on.


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Quote: MattyB "https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/wigan-warriors-history-fans-apathy-21367342.amp?__twitter_impression

The other week he was touting us as Grand Finalists. The only thing he’s missed off there (or avoided completely) is the common denominator- Adrian Lam.

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Quote: MattyB "https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/wigan-warriors-history-fans-apathy-21367342.amp?__twitter_impression

The only thing I’d disagree with in that article is him bagging the attendance last night. I thought 16,300 was a fine effort all things considered and it’s encouraging that there’s enough people in this town who do care enough to turn out and watch this dross in the current climate. We probably had about 12,500-13,000 Wiganers in there last night and outside of Good Friday games, we wouldn’t do much more than that in normal times.

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I actually thought the club did a good job of the pre match entertainment last night. I thought the build up to the game was good

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Quote: 100% Warrior "The other week he was touting us as Grand Finalists. The only thing he’s missed off there (or avoided completely) is the common denominator- Adrian Lam.'"


He is jumping about from one extreme to the other with Wigan, probably to get clicks in fairness. Things are never as bad as they seem but they need to get recruitment spot on this time and they need to get the coaching appointment right.

In times like this everything is magnified and everyone is under pressure and being called out but it’s a knock on effect both ways. The effect of having Lam as coach is that he gets nowhere near the best from any player, the frustration grows, the experienced heads get called out, the young lads get accused of not being good enough, the fans go in to uproar, the crowds drop and pressure comes on the management. On the flip side appoint a good coach and he gets the best from his players, the older heads lead the way, the young lads find it easier and improve, kids who come in find it easier, the fans are buzzing, the crowds increase and nobody talks about the management.

We’re a good coaching appointment and a few good signings away from being where we want to be again. What I’d like to see is us not trying to be clever next season with Wane as some sort of Rugby Director, just bring him back as head coach and give him free reign. Rads needs to tell himself that he’s better served having business lunches with the guys from whisky and tyre companies and let Wane run the rugby side but as head coach. He can do the recruitment side if things in that role and delegate things to guys like Lockers and Peet but let’s not blur the lines by having everyone guessing who is actually top man.

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