Correct! SW seems to get a lot of flack for bullying players, having his favourites etc but 4 very good players have all decided to come back. Can't be that bad can he?

Why hasn't IL given him another contract yet then?

maybe SW wants to review his options at the end of his term ? he's won all the cups already, so theres nothing new to do in SL.
who says SW wouldnt fancy a spell down under ?

I have thought the same thing. especially as we're talking about players that other top SL clubs (and Leeds) would have jumped at, given half a chance. But they chose to come back to the DW.

(dons tin hat)

if anything is going to stir up the anti-SW brigade around here.................

And all I ever hear in interviews is players saying how he demands high standards yet they all speak of him in glowing terms.

I'm not sitting here saying he's some sort of super coach but the disrespect he gets is pathetic at times. He's under huge pressure this year to win a trophy because with the squad we've got, we shouldn't be going three years without one in a league that lacks quality. It's to his credit though that he's kept us in a position fighting for them though when he faces constant player departures year in year out.

If we can get the cup or league on the board this year I could see us cleaning up over the coming years. The young players are developing nicely and the quality we'll have added over the recent seasons will really supplement them. We look to be showing some ambition in the recruitment department which is refreshing.

Haha

As Andy said a while back, quit feeding the troll!

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Hopefully he can get some game time and form before returning.

Would you give him a contract regardless of whether or not he wins us some silverware?

SW is a professional sports coach. He knows his fortunes rest in his own hands, and that ongoing success will guarantee him regular work but that he has to earn that success first.

The bit of the conversation you chipped in at is about whether or not he bullies players and the argument presented is that if he did, they'd be unlikely to want to come back here. As several have come back in recent times, voluntarily, that rather implies that he doesn't bully them - not to the ludicrous degree that some 'insiders' claim.

Surely it isn't a given that he has been/will be offered a new contract, if we don't win anything this season it would make no major trophies in 4 out of Wane's 5 seasons, including early cup exits to Cas and Hull KR. I'd hope IL is going to hold out until the end of this season (unless we win the cup). Having said that, isn't Wane on a yearly rolling contract after 2017 anyway?

League leaders' shield in 2012 also. So that makes 3 out of 5. still not great but perspective is needed; a bit more luck and he'd have two more Grand Final winners' rings.

He has kept us competitive despite losing our best players year after year and while we'd all like to see trophies every year, we don't have a devine right to win them. All we can ask for really is to remain competitive and if we do that, we will lose some (as we have the past couple of seasons) but we will win just as many.

I said major trophies. Teams set out to win the SL and the CC. The minor premiership is just that, minor. Two of the eight major trophies on offer during his four years isn't great for the resources he has had at his disposal IMO, but winning nothing this year (making it two from ten) should be enough to see IL make a change i would hope, particularly given the manner of our last two cup exits. Having said all that, hopefully we win one of the two this year and all is forgiven.

Even though some of his best 'resources' leave every year and a lot of the time aren't adequately replaced?

Had Wane kept a pretty settled squad since 2012 I'd be all for saying the time may be right for a change but he's had nothing but disruption. His squad this year is good enough to win something 'if' it's ever close to fully fit. If the injuries keep up though it'll be tough to make a judgment call on what sort of job he's done. To this point so far I actually think this may be his most impressive season as a coach.