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Quote: The Yellow Giraffe "I'm not surprised Wigan fans love him; his love for Wigan and hatred for Saints is extremely evident in almost every interview he does.

One thing that Saints haven't had in recent times is a coach with real passion for the club who understands the local rivalry; hopefully that will change with Cunningham in charge.

Wane does border on disrespectful at times though. He allows his hatred for Saints to cloud his judgement and he comes across quite petty. Take this interview for example - listing Leeds, Salford and Warrington as rivals for next year but not mentioning the Champions just comes across as silly. Also his insistence on referring to Saints as "them" or "that lot" during interviews; it's unprofessional and quite childish of him.

You can't knock his passion and commitment to Wigan though.'"

He’s not alone is he? (Glass houses)
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Quote: pies-r-us "He’s not alone is he? (Glass houses)

Careful!!! Do not to derail the thread!!

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With Saints' changes, both on and off the pitch, their approach to how they play the game could be totally different next season. If this is the case I can't see Wane being a massive help to Maguire.

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Quote: The Yellow Giraffe "Saints would be hypocritical if (not when
Fair enough on the rest but I don't quite follow the first statement. In what way did Wigan defend Flower's actions? As I remember they pretty much condemned his actions outright. Unless you've seen something that I didn't...

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Quote: Phuzzy "... condemned his actions outright'"
Unlike the deafening silence from the other mob with regard to Hohaia's first strike.

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Quote: Phuzzy "Fair enough on the rest but I don't quite follow the first statement. In what way did Wigan defend Flower's actions? As I remember they pretty much condemned his actions outright. Unless you've seen something that I didn't...'"


I don't think Wigan did defend his actions. What I mean is, if a Saints player did what Flower did and then we defended him, after the fuss we made over Flower, that would make us hypocrites.

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There was one instigator, two protagonists.
The instigator was not dealt with, wrongly. The other protagonist was dealt with, rightly.
Both should have been dealt with in the same manner, sent off!

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Quote: Father Ted "There was one instigator, two protagonists.
The instigator was not dealt with, wrongly. The other protagonist was dealt with, rightly.
Both should have been dealt with in the same manner, sent off!'"


Watch it again. Flower started it. Hohaia then escalated it and Flower reacted appalingly. Hohaia wasn't the instigator but he got off lightly with 1 game.

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Quote: The Yellow Giraffe "Watch it again. Flower started it. Hohaia then escalated it and Flower reacted appalingly. Hohaia wasn't the instigator but he got off lightly with 1 game.'"


Not this tired old tosh again. LH, in keeping with standard saints tactics last season, ran a deliberate obstruction line. Flower did what any player from any team would likely do, and ran through him. So if you want to lay blame at an instigator, then look no further than Mr Brown, who presumably laid out the sneaky obstruction tactics. If you think that is nonsense then you will have to discredit all the Saints fans blaming Mr Wane for Flower's aggressive reaction. Before you claim it's nonsense look how many people - fans, pundits and ex referees alike were surprised at how Turner got away with some blatant obstructions towards the end of the season. only matched by the ever sneaky Danny Maguire.
Perhaps if Wigan had been as good at it then Makinson would have ended on his , and not over the line for a try.

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Quote: never had it "Not this tired old tosh again. LH, in keeping with standard saints tactics last season, ran a deliberate obstruction line. Flower did what any player from any team would likely do, and ran through him. So if you want to lay blame at an instigator, then look no further than Mr Brown, who presumably laid out the sneaky obstruction tactics. If you think that is nonsense then you will have to discredit all the Saints fans blaming Mr Wane for Flower's aggressive reaction. Before you claim it's nonsense look how many people - fans, pundits and ex referees alike were surprised at how Turner got away with some blatant obstructions towards the end of the season. only matched by the ever sneaky Danny Maguire.
Perhaps if Wigan had been as good at it then Makinson would have ended on his booty, and not over the line for a try.'"


Watch that try again, the Wigan player (Bateman) did the exact same thing as Hohaia ... Except chose to block Turner not Makinson - players are allowed to stand their ground etc.

But yes, it's boring old ground, and there's no need to go through it again

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Quote: The Yellow Giraffe "Watch it again. Flower started it. Hohaia then escalated it and Flower reacted appalingly. Hohaia wasn't the instigator but he got off lightly with 1 game.'"


Accordingly*

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Quote: The Yellow Giraffe "Watch it again. Flower started it. Hohaia then escalated it and Flower reacted appalingly. Hohaia wasn't the instigator but he got off lightly with 1 game.'"


This is a red herring being thrown about predominantly by some Saints fans to try to absolve their player of any responsibility, YG, but I'm a little surprised you're peddling it too to be honest. What Flower did initially is something that happens in many, if not most, games in SL. In fact, as pointed out above, it happened several other times in this game alone and was worthy of no more than a penalty (and even that is debatable!). The first action that took it beyond what was acceptable, and for which he later received a ban, was Hohaia's. What Flower ultimately did was unacceptable but even so most people have been balanced enough to say his initial reaction was sort of understandable. No one has said the same of Hohaia's elbow to the face. To say that Flower started it is akin to saying the ref started it by blowing his whistle to begin the game! Players are not, and should not, be at liberty to police minor infringements during a game in any manner they like, and definitely not by running 10 metres or so to elbow someone in the face. The escalation of this incident was Hohaia's doing. Whilst that doesn't excuse Flower's behaviour, to try and lay all the blame at his door purely because he made the initial push is nothing short of ridiculous in the context of a game of rugby league!

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Quote: Phuzzy "This is a red herring being thrown about predominantly by some Saints fans to try to absolve their player of any responsibility, YG, but I'm a little surprised you're peddling it too to be honest. What Flower did initially is something that happens in many, if not most, games in SL. In fact, as pointed out above, it happened several other times in this game alone and was worthy of no more than a penalty (and even that is debatable!). The first action that took it beyond what was acceptable, and for which he later received a ban, was Hohaia's. What Flower ultimately did was unacceptable but even so most people have been balanced enough to say his initial reaction was sort of understandable. No one has said the same of Hohaia's elbow to the face. To say that Flower started it is akin to saying the ref started it by blowing his whistle to begin the game! Players are not, and should not, be at liberty to police minor infringements during a game in any manner they like, and definitely not by running 10 metres or so to elbow someone in the face. The escalation of this incident was Hohaia's doing. Whilst that doesn't excuse Flower's behaviour, to try and lay all the blame at his door purely because he made the initial push is nothing short of ridiculous in the context of a game of rugby league!'"


Excellent post.... Some posters do prefer to see things with just the one eye...

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Quote: Phuzzy "This is a red herring being thrown about predominantly by some Saints fans to try to absolve their player of any responsibility, YG, but I'm a little surprised you're peddling it too to be honest. What Flower did initially is something that happens in many, if not most, games in SL. In fact, as pointed out above, it happened several other times in this game alone and was worthy of no more than a penalty (and even that is debatable!). The first action that took it beyond what was acceptable, and for which he later received a ban, was Hohaia's. What Flower ultimately did was unacceptable but even so most people have been balanced enough to say his initial reaction was sort of understandable. No one has said the same of Hohaia's elbow to the face. To say that Flower started it is akin to saying the ref started it by blowing his whistle to begin the game! Players are not, and should not, be at liberty to police minor infringements during a game in any manner they like, and definitely not by running 10 metres or so to elbow someone in the face. The escalation of this incident was Hohaia's doing. Whilst that doesn't excuse Flower's behaviour, to try and lay all the blame at his door purely because he made the initial push is nothing short of ridiculous in the context of a game of rugby league!'"


I haven't tried to absolve Hohaia of any responsibility.
I did say in my post that he escalated the situation.
I said he got off lightly with his ban.
At no point have I ever said the blame lies purely at Flower's door.

I'm not sure how you have interpreted that as me trying to "peddle a red herring!"

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Quote: Jeff the God of Biscuits "Accordingly*'"


So you condone his actions and feel he was right to react the way he did? If so, people like you need to stay away from rugby grounds as only a brainless thug would feel Flower acted "accordingly."

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