Well, let's just get this bit clarified. They didn't build our stadiums. Their presence meant that the sites on which our stadiums were built could be developed.

I don't want Wigan/Leeds Andy accusing us of sharing our stadiums with Tesco!

they built wires

Only smaller. Must be one of their 'Tesco Express Stadiums'.

They're a lovely little supermarket, but they're not Tesco Extra are they?

Re point 1 - I disagree. Saints have had crowds of c10k for the last decade and have built a stadium with a capacity 80% bigger. Wigans crowds were probably 14k in the early-mid 90s, and 25K is c80% bigger than 14k.

Re point 2 - it's just the maths - if you get crowds of 13/14k for the likes of Wakey, London etc these really pull the average down if your big matches are capped at 18k.

I don't argue that , and as I stated, do the marketing to get more people into those games..which should be the target, and we wouldn't be relying on 2 or 3 big crowds a year to get the average up. then it wont matter if our attendance is capped at 18,000 because we'd be getting those larger crowds in every week. I'm sure most fans would rather be in an 18,000 standing and seating stadium that is nearer full every week with a great atmosphere, than a half empty DW stadium. I know I would anyway.

Yes, but where this wouldn't work is that, if you generate a large (16k+) crowd for every game, when you do play Saints/Wire you have to either drastically reduce the number of away tickets available, or turn home fans away in order to accomodate away crowds. Either way, you're turning away income.

Plus, it will always be the case that you get bigger crowds for some matches than others. If you increase the overall support to 18k, but that fills the ground, you then can't take advantage of the potential increase for the 'big' matches.

It's all hypothetical anyway, we're staying at the DW. Personally, I'd love our own, RL only, with terracing, ground but it ain't happening anytime soon.

In the meantime, I'll look forward to visiting Langtree Park - looks great & should be a cracking atmosphere.

Me too. Already done a reccy and found a watering hole within 5 minutes walk to the away end.

Finally somebody with their priorities in order. These are the facilities which are all important

There's plenty of ale-houses right near the train station, don't worry about that

Hope its not The Queens Arms at Fingerpost Brian -:)

Conny club Paul.