I'm not sure his body is saying it's the end though. He gets the odd niggle but then he's had them since he come and every player will get some. He looks fitter, faster and stronger then he's ever looked this season IMO and he doesn't look like acguy that couldn't do another season.

You obviously don't want to play on too long but your a long time retired and Carmont only made his pro breakthrough late.

I agree. If George wanted to play on, I'd snatch his hand off.

If memory serves, he was one of Ian Lenagan's first signings for us, and must still be regarded as one of the best. In all his time at Wigan, I can only recall one or two matches where I felt he didn't give his best. But his second-best was usually enough to impress.

A great buy who literally seemed to come out of nowhere. Didn't IL sign him after going to watch some odd fixture like Samoa v Lebanon?

Lenagan and Lydon watched him for Samoa and said they pretty much signed him on the spot after hearing he'd been released by Newcastle.

He came as a last minute bargain buy and will leave as one of our best imports. He's been sensational and whether he goes at the end of 2011 or 2012 he's going to be sorely missed.

Over the last 15 years we have been very lucky to watch some great imports (Renouf, Barrett, Craig Smith, Pat Richards, Breatt Dallas, Lam etc) Carmont for me has been as good as almost all of them only 1 i would have ahead of him is Lam. He came here on the cheap a player we all thought was a journeyman looking for one last pay cheque. Lets hope he has 1 more season of them as on his performances this season he is one of the best centres in SL.

True but based purely on their time at Wigan i would say that Carmont gives the most value....by a long chalk too.

Carmont-what a fantastic signing. Not as good as Lam Barratt or Renouf, bit arugably a better servant to our club.

The fact that Waney has pursuaded him to stay suggests our new coach for 2012 is working his magic already.

Is this a fact though?

Really hope so mate.

He told my brothers mate who had him in his taxi. the reason hes retiring was his body was taking 2-3 days recover from a game now.

maybe they have talked him round.

I agree, but I am afraid I dont have any insider knowledge on the new coach. I was just thinking that if SW has pursuaded George to stay it suggests SW is either happy as number 2 for 2012 or (as seems more likely) he is saying I am the new coach and want you to stay.

Either scenario seems good to me as I would hate to lose Waney from the senior coaching setup.

I have to admitt I'm not 100% fully paid into Madge's theory of playing his strongest side possible in every game we play.

For me we could easily sign Carmont for next season and reduce his game time significantly from what we've seen this season. Does he really need to play every week of the league and cup?

Carmont also told me the same thing about recovery from knocks and games getting harder, and it was unlikely he would do another year, but he would wait until the end of the season to see how things were. He told me this at the last supporters club meeting.

Along with Gleeson he is in the top two centres in SL(apparently) So i'm guessing he's a very important cog in the Wigan machine.

He's no Matty Blythe is he.

I agree. Also if younger players dont get games at centre they arent going to be in any better position to take over next year then they would have been this year.