I feel for the widnes fans, maybe the RFL will grow some balls and throw salford out after this year and put you back in the top flight

Salford's new stadium was supposed to be built by now, but not even a brick has gone down..... what a joke

I do not go many academy games, but i have heard he is doing quite well mate.

I hope so aswell. When Salford where in the championship our attendances where higher.We have the academy,stadium and a good backer in ste oconnor.So things are in place.A few widnes fans are throwing the towell in but i will stand by through thick and thin.Hopefully if we keep winning and be near the top then our attendances will stay up.A few say oh only playing batley so wont go to the games.No offence to them teams as i admire their support,as they are geniuine fans.

Salford and Quins out. Widnes and Toulouse in.

No chance when they add some 20% to the TV deal.

thing is, we can only have so many of these 'cant throw out teams' of the league will have to be 20 strong. Which is possible but will have to get rid of the cup.

Depends on your definition of 'failure'. The concept as a 'whole' has certainly not failed. The youth development (mentioned previously) is THE most important aspect of having the game in London and that is finally working. Although attendances need to be improved to help us market the game better having the necessary playing roster is the most essential aspect of the game moving forward IMO.



Again your simply concerned with the crowds and not the bigger picture.



Whether your right or not, there should be no bending of the rules to accommodate them at the expense of everybody else. They already have immunity from relegation so they shouldn't be fast tracked when rules are set in place for everybody. It makes a mockery of the game, far worse a mockery than the perceived image Harlequins RL convey.

Why?

Beacuse if you have 20 team, a home and away and then split up the rounds with cup ties like now it will be far too long and add that to the international scene and there will be no off season.

So something has to give and the only logical thing will be the cup as you cannot get rid of the international scene.

First of all we do need to expand the game outside the heartlands and another team from France, whether it be Toulouse or another, can only be good for the game as long as they have a sound business and development plan. Problem with Celtic Crusaders is that they did not have that. Another team in South Wales could work as long as everything i.e. financials etc where in place. However, teams such as Widnes, Halifax, and maybe a team from Cumbria need the chance to get into Super League or their is no point in them striving to be succesfull etc. I think those team as long as the necessaries are in place can add value to the Super League unlike teams such as Salford who have poor attendances and dont seem to be able to add much on the pitch and with no sign of a new stadium anytime soon. Having worked in London developing the sport in the community there are a lot of schools etc playing the sport but there is much more interest in other sports such as football and cricket and even basketball. Quins are doing a lot of work trying expand and develop the game down there but for whatever reason it doesnt seem to be working. They even gave out free season tickets to every registered player both junior and senior, coaches, club volunteers etc and they didnt have any effect on their attendances. Whether having all these players and schools playing the game will pay of for the Quins in the long run I dont know.

another point to make is that a 20 team league could work if we brought in an elite international squad who were paid centrally or part centrally by the RFL and did not count on the salary cap. These players could only play in a certain number of games in the season i.e 25 games. It would be up to the clubs which games they played but they couldn't play more than the set amount. This would combat the elite players who play in the trinations and european nations from suffering burn out. Hopefully this would benefit the clubs and the international game. Thoughts????

I'm sure you'd be made welcome.