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| Quote: Saint Simon "
To be honest, after the Bulls did your lot I said to my girlfriend "the only problem is Saints'll be after blood at Murrayfield now". Even 5 minutes before kick-off I thought we were in for another tonking. Sweet to be wrong!
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| Quote: tyr " Sweet to be wrong!'"
I disagree
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| Quote: NickyKiss "Cunningham said in the Mirror on Saturday(in the middle of his murryfield winge) that he will probably play on next season so to me that means Moore will be leaving Saints which could be a move that will haunt them in years to come.
Long may move on after this year and people can say what they want about Eastmond but he's yet to prove to me he's anywhere near replacing a modern great like Long.
Wellens has another 4 or 5 years in him probably but i don't honestly think his form of the past 2 seasons would warrent him being that much of a loss anyway if he was to retire.
Saying all that they've got new leaders emerging like Graham, Wilkin and Roby so they're going to be right around the top end of the table for a good number of years yet.'"
Both Cunningham and Long will have to really up their game this year to be worth new contracts, Cunnungfham especially for me has been poor and it's been noticeable that the team has improved when Roby has come on.
Wellens for me has to move from full back to prolong his career, the faults are starting to appear as he slows down and his positional sense doesn't cover for it like it used to.
Of course you'll always get those fans that think that all three players are still in their prime and are the worlds best.
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| Quote: Billinge_Lump "Both Cunningham and Long will have to really up their game this year to be worth new contracts, Cunnungfham especially for me has been poor and it's been noticeable that the team has improved when Roby has come on.
Wellens for me has to move from full back to prolong his career, the faults are starting to appear as he slows down and his positional sense doesn't cover for it like it used to.
Of course you'll always get those fans that think that all three players are still in their prime and are the worlds best.'"
Eddie Hemmings?
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| To be honest, I think Saints could get another couple of years out of Wellens. While he's never been quick he lost a yard or two of pace at least 2-3 seasons ago (like a slower version of Michael Owen he slowed down in his mid-20s), but he's managed to cover it up so far (apart from the odd lapse like being comprehensively beaten for pace by Vaeliki of all people), and as long as Saints continue to have a good 3/4 line (well, excluding Gardner! ) and he maintains a good positional sense he can probably continue to get away with his lack of pace for a bit longer.
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| Quote: Billinge_Lump "Both Cunningham and Long will have to really up their game this year to be worth new contracts, Cunnungfham especially for me has been poor and it's been noticeable that the team has improved when Roby has come on.
Wellens for me has to move from full back to prolong his career, the faults are starting to appear as he slows down and his positional sense doesn't cover for it like it used to.
Of course you'll always get those fans that think that all three players are still in their prime and are the worlds best.'"
You looked far more dangerous when Roby was on the pitch Saturday, his strength for someone of his size is remarkable.
Eastmond was playing FB, with Wellens at centre, have you used this tactic before??
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| Quote: Billinge_Lump "Both Cunningham and Long will have to really up their game this year to be worth new contracts, Cunnungfham especially for me has been poor and it's been noticeable that the team has improved when Roby has come on.
Wellens for me has to move from full back to prolong his career, the faults are starting to appear as he slows down and his positional sense doesn't cover for it like it used to.
Of course you'll always get those fans that think that all three players are still in their prime and are the worlds best.'"
I suppose if Long and Cunningham were to go down the road with Moore coming into replace Cunningham that would free up alot of space on the cap to replace Long with and then get another couple of players in to increase the squad size.
It's probably needed to be fair. The first 17 is still very good but after that there isn't really anybody of note in terms of backup.
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| getting players with quality wont be saints problem when cunningham and long leave.
Its what they will lose in the dressing room that will be unbelievably hard to replace
Losing sculthorpe, cunningham and long all near the same time will hurt them just like when we lost farrell, lam, o'connor,cassidy all close together.
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| Quote: Billinge_Lump "Both Cunningham and Long will have to really up their game this year to be worth new contracts, Cunnungfham especially for me has been poor and it's been noticeable that the team has improved when Roby has come on.
Wellens for me has to move from full back to prolong his career, the faults are starting to appear as he slows down and his positional sense doesn't cover for it like it used to.
Good God!
They never were even in their Prime!
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| saints looked worse for me with wellens at centre and eastmond at fb
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| Quote: pk "saints looked worse for me with wellens at centre and eastmond at fb'"
No doubt at all about that mate.
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| Quote: {Hogan} "You looked far more dangerous when Roby was on the pitch Saturday, his strength for someone of his size is remarkable.
Eastmond was playing FB, with Wellens at centre, have you used this tactic before??'"
No, if Eastmond has played fullback, Wellens has generally gone into the pack IIRC.
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| ^ Didn't take the scouse losers long to come back did it? ^
Still as you are here.
STAINS GOT THUMPED!!
STAINS GOT THUMPED!!
STAINS GOT THUMPED!!
STAINS GOT THUMPED!!
STAINS GOT THUMPED!!
STAINS GOT THUMPED!!
STAINS GOT THUMPED!!
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| we wll would like to agree with title of this thread but in all honesty saints have a couple of years left before long n wellens go - worryingly, back in 2002 who'd have said they could have so easily lost sculthorpe from their squad?
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| Quote: pk "we wll would like to agree with title of this thread but in all honesty saints have a couple of years left before long n wellens go - worryingly, back in 2002 who'd have said they could have so easily lost sculthorpe from their squad?'"
I agree.
They are in a turning point in their history with the main core of their squad comming to the end of their careers.
but for anyone to write them off would be foolish, very foolish.
(mind you i hope i am wrong cause i hate them to the pit of my stomach)
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