He was very poor today but wasn't on his own.

He has been poor every game he has played. He is not ready and I seriously have doubts he ever will be.

I seem to remember much the same was was being said about MM at the same age, but yes, I agree he's not ready yet. Wane thinks highly of him, though.

I said to someone during the game "If Williams is the answer at hooker, I'm not sure what the question is"

Think he could do with a couple games in the U21s at Hooker to learn the nuances a bit more. For Saints I'd play O'Loughlin there with Wright on the bench.

It's a real shame Hampshire in injured or else I'd have said put him in at 6 with Powell shifting to 9. As it stands if Bowen is back I think I'd shift Sarginson in to 6 and put Powell at 9.

First choice would certainly be to bring Tomkins back though. His form for Salford has been very good.

McIlorum is a huge loss. It is okay doing without him for a game or tw but we are really going to miss him and suffer a drop in quality if he is out for 3 months.

Yep, bring Tomkins back. He's solid, despite not setting the world on fire.
As been said earlier, he's playing well for Salford, and to come back as 1st choice for the forseeable future, as well as being re-united with big bruv, might just give him the catalyst needed to come on big style.

Logan's main problem was that he is of a very similar style to McIlorum without being as good, and when he's been tried as an interchange hooker there has been a noticeable drop in intensity when he's spelled McIlorum. He's always played his best games when he's started and done long minutes. If it's an option, and I see no reason why it shouldn't be, the it's a no brainer to bring him back from Salford, start him and use Williams as the interchange hooker to provide impact off the bench.

i don't think we have the option.almost sure it was a 12 month loan deal.

Don't get me wrong I haven't seen all of Salford games but I worked at Wire v Salford yesterday in the press section in front of Iestyn Harris. I must say Logan didn't have his finest game and Harris was not a happy man. He ended up collaring him and taking him off as his performance was that bad. Sadly, as hard working a player he is I don't think he has the talent to succeed at the top level.

Logan played better when he started and got a few games together, although not often.
If he came back then he would be first choice 9 for 8 weeks plus probably.
It could well be that he would be a far better player then than when he left for Salford where he has been playing regularly.
As I said before, if we can get him back we should.

Tompkins on season long loan and let's get off Williams's back yeah. He's doing fine overall.

yes sir

It's easy to spell Paleaaesina or even Leuluai incorrectly but Tomkins is not even a remotely difficult name to spell correctly.

Williams is not doing fine. He may come good and I hope he does but at the moment he looks a little out of his depth at this level.