I well remember the stick MM got when he first got the gig....

Its not just that, I do see signs of an average player in there, but he's a Tomkins and don't you think thats got him in the team ahead of other players?

Powell would have done the same sort of job. We just needed anyone there who could at least do the basics right to allow McIlorum to have a rest.

You have hit the nail on the head IMO he offers very little to the team

listen im typing as a neutral... logan Tomkins doesn't offer much go forward ..he very rarely scoots think he defence is poor I wouldn't say hes in the 10 ten hookers in superleague .... on the plus side hes still young .... good win yesterday solid team performance ... it wouldn't have matter wet or dry conditions ... you would have still won that game ever it was played on mars........

It seems that I too am in the minority again.
Logan tackles more and tackle harder the sam Powell, who in my opinion may make a mid table half back but would need to learn to take on a defence to make a proper impact. Logan does not run often enough from dummy half granted, but I would ave him on the bench for MM any day and expect him to come on each year to be indispensable.

Defence wins games and logan is bloody good in defence, earns his spot for me every week.

Everyone needs a back up hooker so this argument about him not being as good as MM seems to be pointless. I don't think anyone would argue that he is. What he does offer is decent cover when MM is tired. I also think the comments re just because his name is tomkins he gets a gig. If that were true play his dad!

I think he has really come on this year, still quite a bit of improvement to be made but if there's a cheaper backup hooker out there I've yet to see him.

One swallow doesn't make a summer.

If he can play well, consistently, for the rest of the year then people may change their opinion of him.

Logan only gets so much negativity because he's a tomkins. People seem to think its how he's getting a game, but for the most part people wouldn't be so negative if he wasn't a tomkins. Powell has shown no more than him, but he doesn't get as much stick.

He's only 21 and no worse than mcilorum was when he was 21. Intact mcilorum was getting stick still in 2011 around the time of our last challenge cup victory.

I disagree I think Powell has shown much more in attack than Logan has, defensively they both need work.

He did ok and he's that type of player. He's no stand out, he doesn't particularly do anything wrong but his physical attributes mean he's limited.

I think we need more from the bench but that's for another day.

LT is an average back up hooker at best fact ! There are better prospects playing outside Super League who would inject more to your side in both defence and attack defiantly , IMO Logan is far from being a SL player and is in your side for one reason and one reason only !!