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| I'm not really a big fan of this sort of thing in general and I think we need to be mindful we don't overdo it. We need players who instinctively know what to do at big moments in big games and having guys playing in unfamiliar positions just makes them have to think about it. There's not much time for thinking on a rugby pitch.
Having said that if we're going to experiment I hope it's done one at a time to minimise disruption. Not all change is bad, as proved by Goulding.
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| Some interesting comments about Sam. I understand that he's not the best defensive full back we've ever had, but he adds a heck of a lot to our attack when he comes into the line from deep positions - as he showed in the GF (esp. Gleeson's 2nd try) and as he showed against Leeds (esp. when he took Finch's cut out pass and broke away towards the end). He has the freedom from full back to pick where and when he moves up, whereas he just wouldn't have the space and vision to do that from 6 or 7. I think MM has made up his mind to keep Sam at 1 (as I mentioned in my blog), so I'd be surprised to see him moved back to the halves any time soon.
Quote: Bilko "And Mossop was always one likely to step up to prop in my view. I seem to recall him doing it under Noble (I think it was at Saints away?) and he didn't look out of place then and doesn't look out of place now.'"
I agree about Mossop - I think he played prop on loan at Hudds too, but it's credit to both MM and Lee himself that it's working so well (so far).
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| Now that Gleeson has officially gone, I think we have to go with either Joel or Charnley at centre, I'm just not convinced about Marsh. I think due to our abundance of quality in the 2nd row MM will go for Joel, Charnley is defo one to replace George when he retires/goes.
Talk of Hock being moved to a prop could also be added to the changes list?
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| Quote: pondmonster "Talk of Hock being moved to a prop could also be added to the changes list?'"
I mentioned it it the blog. Did you not read it?
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39110_1363272058.jpg Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot
Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good
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sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league
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Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate
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the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever
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Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go
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Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know
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| I think it's clear to see that all of them have had a positive impact in one way or another.
The good thing in my opinion is that Maguire is willling to try this sort of thing.
Why assume that just because a player has been playing somewhere since he was 16 that it is his best position. It could change, or the person who told them to play in a certain position may have been wrong.
Had Joel been brought up in Aus, I think he would have been a centre all his career.
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33718_1325770967.jpg Games as big as Grand Finals define individuals and clubs. Remember, we only rent these journeys. In my time I had Pat Richard's shirt. Ellery Hanley had Sean O'Loughlin's jersey. Sam Tomkins is wearing Radders' number one jersey. Andy Coley is wearing Shaun Wayne's jersey. You have to make a mark in these shirts before you hand it down to someone else. Hand it back. So be aware for 80 minutes that you are not only playing, but you are also writing history and creating legacy. How many people actually write history - not many? A big stage demands big players…..INSPIRE YOUR TEAM MATES.
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| Feka to Salford.
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| I think Sam's switch to fullback worked well as a surprise tactic last season, but the better teams have now worked out how to nullify his attacking threats and capitalise on his weaknesses. It's no coincidence, IMO, that our best playing period v Leeds came when he'd switched to halfback.
The other changes I think are excellent. Joel at centre is already good, and will improve, and it allows us to play another of our talented back rowers. If he stayed in the second row, either Hansen or Farrell would have to be dropped, and that would be unfair to either.
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| Quote: Grimmy "
Sam - He does well at full back but I prefer him at stand off as his defence can be a little shakey, you can talk about the modern 'third half back' full back all day ...........
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It's hardly modern. Martin Ryan, the Wigan and GB full back, was linking up with the threequarter line in the 1930's.
But I agree, Sam to 6.
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| Quote: Grimmy "Joel - Not convinced yet but we'll see. It's his brain farts that worry me, quite a few times I've seen him sprint to the wing, realise he's going in touch, then throw it back aimlessly, great way to give away a try that.'"
Reminds me of a certain Keith Senior. If he does that badly over his wigan career i'll be happy
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| Quote: TheSurgeon "Feka to Salford.'"
tbh i reckon Feka would have had more game time than Lima.........and been more effective.
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| Quote: Eastbourne Warrior "Reminds me of a certain Keith Senior. If he does that badly over his wigan career i'll be happy'"
biggest difference being that Senior started out as a 3/4 (winger), whereas Joels a forward.
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10172_1376829585.jpg Dan Sarginson: "This is a fantastic opportunity for me to join the biggest name in the competition" 18/10/2013
Tony Clubb: "This is a new exciting chapter of my life signing for Wigan and I couldn't be happier" 18/10/2013
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| Switches which affected us this year:
Riddell to Aus
Paaaaat to sick bed
Gleeson to disciplinary panel
Amos to lightweight
Fielden to sick bed
Deacon to old age
Finch to SL
Hoffman to hard runner
Madge to leave a year early
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| Off topic slightly but Karl Pryce looked unstoppable against the Bulls last week.
He seems to come in for a lot of stick, why???
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| Quote: Harlequin Gooner "Off topic slightly but Karl Pryce looked unstoppable against the Bulls last week.
He seems to come in for a lot of stick, why???'"
Because its the first time he's looked unstoppable in 3 and a half years.
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| Quote: Harlequin Gooner "Off topic slightly but Karl Pryce looked unstoppable against the Bulls last week.
He seems to come in for a lot of stick, why???'"
He doesn't "look" like he is trying, he isn't as good as some people expect just by looking at him, and he isn't from the academy. But most importantly we always need a scapegoat.
Have no problem with him myself, he isn't a superstar but he is a good player. Glad to see he is doing well for the Quins, if he gets through the full season we could see something close to the potential he has, which is obviously massive.
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