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| Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"aah, so you believe prefacing a statement with the word 'perhaps' does remove the potential for offence. As i say that is a very naive understanding.
But i do wonder why you were so averse to saying this.'"
It's only naive if you don't understand what the word perhaps means.
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| Quote Wigan/Leeds Andy="Wigan/Leeds Andy"It's only naive if you don't understand what the word perhaps means.'"
so you wouldnt be offended by the statement 'perhaps' those who contract motor neurone disease deserve it.
or 'perhaps' black people should be forced back to slavery.
which are clearly idiotic and offensive statements in no way mitigated by their prefacing with an uncertain adverb, but they are entirely unoffensive to you?
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| Quote Austin 3:16="Austin 3:16"Perhaps you don't want to see it, that at least i could understand.'"
Like the leeds fans and media who refuse to admit that mcguire injured himself whilst trying to pull Carmont back? That sort of thing?
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| Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"so you wouldnt be offended by the statement 'perhaps' those who contract motor neurone disease deserve it.
or 'perhaps' black people should be forced back to slavery.
which are clearly idiotic and offensive statements in no way mitigated by their prefacing with an uncertain adverb, but they are entirely unoffensive to you?'"
Unfortunately you seem to have missed off the context within which Clarke chose his words and his use of the word perhaps. It probably explains why people who don't have the capacity to understand simple words would also be incapable of putting them into context.
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| Quote Wigan/Leeds Andy="Wigan/Leeds Andy"Unfortunately you seem to have missed off the context within which Clarke chose his words and his use of the word perhaps. It probably explains why people who don't have the capacity to understand simple words would also be incapable of putting them into context.'" ok, lets reproduce the context word for word
now remember there is no further context in which Clarke puts his statement, this is the beginning of the paragraph, the only paragraph, in which Clarke discusses Mcguires injury with simply the name and affliction changed, the principle and context and words are exactly the same.
are you really arguing that the statement Gregory's illness could well act as a lesson to any other player watching that it doesn't pay to cheat.Perhaps the rugby Gods have punished him for his unsportsmanlike play.
isnt offensive?
Or are you just trolling because Keith Swiftcorn  told you to
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| Quote Howard Beale="Howard Beale"Wrong again i've never defend him nor have i condoned what he said in anyway and i believe he apolgised (if not i stand to be corrected) and deserved the ban . However you then went on AND WITH FULL FOREKNOWLEDGE and posted your HOLOCAUST tipped agenda on these forums and again put any spin on it you want and claim any victory you want if it makes you feel better i wont be replying . ps I didn't know at the time of my initial post in that thread that it was ap . Enjoy your corner.
'" But you were aware when you brought it up again, which makes it all the stranger.
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| Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"ok, lets reproduce the context word for word
now remember there is no further context in which Clarke puts his statement, this is the beginning of the paragraph, the only paragraph, in which Clarke discusses Mcguires injury whcih simply the name and affliction changed, the principle and context and words are exactly the same.
are you really arguing that the statement Gregory's illness could well act as a lesson to any other player watching that it doesn't pay to cheat.Perhaps the rugby Gods have punished him for his unsportsmanlike play.
isnt offensive?
Or are you just trolling because Keith Swiftcorn
told you to'"
I don't troll. I see you completely got the context wrong again in another desperate example. I don't see why you can't use what Clarke said.
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| Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"ok, lets reproduce the context word for word
now remember there is no further context in which Clarke puts his statement, this is the beginning of the paragraph, the only paragraph, in which Clarke discusses Mcguires injury whcih simply the name and affliction changed, the principle and context and words are exactly the same.
are you really arguing that the statement Gregory's illness could well act as a lesson to any other player watching that it doesn't pay to cheat.Perhaps the rugby Gods have punished him for his unsportsmanlike play.
isnt offensive?
Or are you just trolling because Keith Swiftcorn
told you to'"
Are you for fcking real?
Are you really using Mike Gregory's illness to make some ill-judged and bll points-scoring comparison to Danny McGuire picking up an injury?
You do, I assume, know Gregory was bitten whilst in Australia?
You do also know, I assume, that McGuire picked up his injury as a DIRECT RESULT of his OWN actions? Oh you can keep coming back with bll replies all night, we all saw it with our own eyes.
Someone ban this boring horrible little twt. Now fck off.
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| Quote Wigan/Leeds Andy="Wigan/Leeds Andy"I don't troll. I see you completely got the context wrong again in another desperate example. I don't see why you can't use what Clarke said.'"
I did use the what clarke said, i simply changed the name and the afflication, i used it word for word.
Unless of course you are saying it was the context (and not the word perhaps) of a players career threatening injury which removed the offence? Because there is no other context which Clarke brings up. If not maybe you could indulge me and explain what other context Clarke is using and where he explains this?
But by your avoidence i think we can accept that you do find the statement offensive (like any normal person would)
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| And now I know why Leeds are nicknamed Whinos.
Stop crying over something who has nothing to do with the Wigan club has said.
I'd hate to see how you'd react if our head coach accused one of your players of intentionally injuring a player then another one of our players spouted more bull about unsportsman like behaviour.
Bring on Saturday...
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| Quote Cronus="Cronus"Are you for fcking real?
Are you really using Mike Gregory's illness to make some ill-judged and bll points-scoring comparison to Danny McGuire picking up an injury?'" No, im clearly not. Only an idiot would think I was, I am saying quite clearly that that statement would be idiotic and offensive, the same as it was about Mcguire
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You do, I assume, know Gregory was bitten whilst in Australia?
You do also know, I assume, that McGuire picked up his injury as a DIRECT RESULT of his OWN actions? Oh you can keep coming back with bll replies all night, we all saw it with our own eyes.'" no, he didnt, whilst Mcguires injury correllated with him breaking the rules it would be nonsensical to suggest it was caused by it. It was caused by chance. The same as Gregory. Neither were responsible for it and it is offensive to say so.
Quote CronusSomeone ban this boring horrible little twt. Now fck off.'" obviously you are now seeing your own hypocrisy and you dont like it. I dont for one minute believe the statement i put. But i put it to highlight that you would find the same statement applied to a different subject matter very very offensive (which you did) not to offend you to but to hopefully show why Mcguire (not me, not any of the fans on this board nor anybody else) didnt deserve his injury, and certainly didnt deserve Clarkes publicly made statement, which YOU defended.
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