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| Quote Cherry.Pie="Cherry.Pie"One thing that baffles me is Lam's belief that Hankinson is somehow an acceptable option at second row. When I saw his name on the bench it worried me that he might end up on the pitch. Then Greenwood gets injured and we end up with Isa and Hankinson as our 2 back rowers. It's not like we don't have people to play there. Smithies had some cracking games there and Paisley, while hit or miss, did have a good game the last time he played Catalans and has the advantage of being a back row forward. Any possible threat we might possible have in that position completely disappears.
And it's no surprise that yet again when Greenwood goes off we don't have a clue what to do. He's pretty much our go to forward which probably puts a bit too much pressure on him as he can be managed out of the game if he doesn't get good enough service.
Williams was shocking. Even when we were being relatively competitive against the Catalans pack his decision making was utterly awful. Powell too was poor and completely outplayed by McIlorum. I hope Lam is giving some consideration to moving Leuluai back to 9 (it worked well last time) with Shorrocks on the bench once Sammut returns because there's not an ounce of creativity from Powell.
The only forward who had a good game was Flower, who seemed to be tasked with keeping Sam Moa quiet and he did that brilliantly. Everyone else though looked well below par, particularly O'Loughlin who had one of his worst games.
I really don't see how we can fix our problems without making signings. It's obvious our pack is weak right now and they are showing little signs of improvement. It was an obvious weakness at the start of the season. I think Lam even said he wanted to strengthen that area but the club weren't forthcoming with any signings. In that respect I do have some sympathy for Lam but I won't if he keeps picking Hankinson as a bloody second rower!'"
Will need to watch the game again when I get home on Tuesday, but from the stands I thought Greenwood had a shocker and Hankinson when he cane on did ok.
I also find the criticism of Locky a strange one as it was only when he came on and took charge like Williams should have been doing that we started to threaten the Catalans side in what was for the first 29 odd minutes of the match a ridiculously slat performance given the occasion.
In relation to our Props I don’t doubt they are working hard but clearly they lack a bit of quality. Again though yesterday what was blatantly obvious was they were going up in 1s. They had 0 support runners or people cutting a line or even giving the hooker an option run like a wedge. It was simply a case of hooker passes to Prop, Prop runs in nearest Wigan player to him in the hooker who gets to the play the ball.
If my u14s don’t run in pairs they get laps, it really is that basic a principle.
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| Quote ANTWERP RED="ANTWERP RED"Once in a life time opportunity to experience a game in one of the most Iconic Stadiums in the entire world In one of the most Vibrant Cities on the planet I've no doubt a Game at Huddersfield or Wakefield at the beginning of February is much more Your cup of Tea'"
Means nothing to me, just another stadium.however it is two points lost.
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| Quote CobraCraig="CobraCraig"What international teams have Bullock and Greenwood played for??'"
Greenwood played for England v NZ in the test series a few months back.
Bullock is with the England Knights.
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| Quote Last Son of Wigan="Last Son of Wigan"Greenwood played for England v NZ in the test series a few months back.
Bullock is with the England Knights.'"
Bullock was never involved in the England set up prior to joining Wigan though.
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| Quote hatty="hatty"Bullock was never involved in the England set up prior to joining Wigan though.'"
So? What's your point?
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| Quote hatty="hatty"Means nothing to me, just another stadium.however it is two points lost.'"
Stupid comment. We played poorly, yes, but in a few years that result will be forgotten. What won’t be forgotten is that some of us got to watch the first ever super league game at the Camp Nou.
The atmosphere before the game with thousands of Wigan shirts walking around Barcelona and chanting on Las Ramblas will stay with me forever.
We are so fortunate as fans that we have seen the team win countless Championships, Grand Finals, World Club Challenges and Challenge Cups. We will win again, but experiences like this trip don’t come around as often.
Sad for you to see it that way.
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| I was encouraged by the way we played in the cup but yesterday was a huge step backwards. While I agree with comments already made about specific players, what depressed me most was the lack of energy, particularly in that spell in the second half when they killed off the game.
On one hand, I’d question the attitude of the players, which for me, hasn’t been great all season - might be my imagination, but I’m seeing more instances of players are snapping at team mates in 2019, players taking time to get back in the defensive line etc. But then when I look at our structures in both attack and defence, we continue to make life hard for ourselves and easy for opponents. Holding the defensive line and not moving up is gifting metres to the opposition attack. The attack remains as one dimensional as it was under Wane, a lot of one-man carries, shifting wide so slowly that it rarely troubles a sliding defence.
As poor as some individuals were yesterday, the whole team seems locked into patterns and structures that simply don’t work or don’t work often enough. Its sapping energy, composure and discipline from the team.
I was hoping that Lam would transform our attack while maintaining our strong defence. Sadly, based on the evidence so far, he’s failed to do the former and our defence is much worse. I know recruitment’s been poor, I understand why some posters think the coach has been dealt a bad hand, but I still think we should be much better than we are.
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| Quote WARRIOR5="WARRIOR5"Stupid comment. We played poorly, yes, but in a few years that result will be forgotten. What won’t be forgotten is that some of us got to watch the first ever super league game at the Camp Nou.
The atmosphere before the game with thousands of Wigan shirts walking around Barcelona and chanting on Las Ramblas will stay with me forever.
We are so fortunate as fans that we have seen the team win countless Championships, Grand Finals, World Club Challenges and Challenge Cups. We will win again, but experiences like this trip don’t come around as often.
Sad for you to see it that way.'"
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| Quote Last Son of Wigan="Last Son of Wigan"So? What's your point?'"
So having never represented his country he can’t be classed as an international for which your original post stated he was an international. That’s my point!
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| Quote WARRIOR5="WARRIOR5"Stupid comment. We played poorly, yes, but in a few years that result will be forgotten. What won’t be forgotten is that some of us got to watch the first ever super league game at the Camp Nou.
The atmosphere before the game with thousands of Wigan shirts walking around Barcelona and chanting on Las Ramblas will stay with me forever.
We are so fortunate as fans that we have seen the team win countless Championships, Grand Finals, World Club Challenges and Challenge Cups. We will win again, but experiences like this trip don’t come around as often.
Sad for you to see it that way.'"
Nothing stupid about my comment, I hope you enjoyed it just like I hoped everyone else enjoyed it. I’ve visited Barcelona on several occasions and it’s a fantastic city. My issue is the club treating it as a jolly boys holiday. I actually feel sorry for the fans who paid to witness that performance but as you say the result will be forgotten.
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| Quote hatty="hatty"So having never represented his country he can’t be classed as an international for which your original post stated he was an international. That’s my point!'"
Oh good one. I'm glad from my post that's what you took away from it. Completely disregarding the whole point, but yeah cool. Well done. An England Knight who represents his country isn't an international. Brilliant well done mate.
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| Quote Last Son of Wigan="Last Son of Wigan"Oh good one. I'm glad from my post that's what you took away from it. Completely disregarding the whole point, but yeah cool. Well done. An England Knight who represents his country isn't an international. Brilliant well done mate.'"
Thanks, there was much else to take from it.
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