Why does the behaviour of some other people mean that this guy's opinion is not relevant? If some people who are not you but are involved with Wigan behaved badly would that affect the validity of your opinions?

Correct. Have edited accordingly.

Nowt wrong with it says Shaun. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/37354102 Quote (On Flower's dismissal) If you slow anything down, it can make it look bad - I didn't see much in that, I'm sure it will be seen the correct way. Wigan coach Shaun Wane: "(On Flower's dismissal) If you slow anything down, it can make it look bad - I didn't see much in that, I'm sure it will be seen the correct way. "We were under pressure against a team playing really well. I thought it was a great effort and, for guts and determination, it's a fantastic win. "To overcome that adversity makes it really satisfying. We have that unbreakable spirit and trust in each other."'"

Nowt wrong with it says Shaun. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/37354102 Quote (On Flower's dismissal) If you slow anything down, it can make it look bad - I didn't see much in that, I'm sure it will be seen the correct way. Wigan coach Shaun Wane: "(On Flower's dismissal) If you slow anything down, it can make it look bad - I didn't see much in that, I'm sure it will be seen the correct way. "We were under pressure against a team playing really well. I thought it was a great effort and, for guts and determination, it's a fantastic win. "To overcome that adversity makes it really satisfying. We have that unbreakable spirit and trust in each other."'"

I agree, i think we should stay on topic.. And that is the the (current) Ben Flower situation, which i have already stated my complete displeasure at on page 2

Quote MattyB="MattyB"Nowt wrong with it says Shaun. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/37354102 '" Classic Wane, Defending the un-defendable. It's a pity though, because it was a contributing factor in one of the best team performances in years. Even Sam attacked the line and looked bloody dangerous when he did.

Quote MattyB="MattyB"Nowt wrong with it says Shaun. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/37354102 '" Classic Wane, Defending the un-defendable. It's a pity though, because it was a contributing factor in one of the best team performances in years. Even Sam attacked the line and looked bloody dangerous when he did.

I think 2 matches as he was sent off,what i did notice was Patton not lying around after the challenge feigning injury respect to him for that i suppose he will learn that in time

Tony Smith thought the Red Card was harsh. I'll take that.

I honestly thought it was just a yellow. I saw it as clumsy not malicious.

Just to put the cat amongst the pigeons.....deliberate use of lower limbs to the head of Powell to stop the try? No attempt made what so ever to tackle using the arms, defender uses the arms Powell scores.

Think most people saw what i didn't see but i am quite happy being a lone voice in the dark. I thought it was a malicious, deliberate and dirty attack and i have seen it many times now. Nothing will change my mind. Wigan player or not.

Very well said Matty, and Yes!!, in all the confusion i forgot about that somewhat. Led with the knees, although wasn't deliberate, very worthy of at least a sin bin or penalty try - or both, which could also be said of the Tierney try, not given could have been worse for Wire.

In all honesty I thought it looked a lot worse in slow motion. I'm not convinced there was any malice in it, More uncontrolled and careless, If you slow something like that down enough then it will look bad. worthy of atleast a yellow but won't complain to much at the red but I'd personally think sending off sufficient.