Well, wigan's modus operandi since 2010 has been to blitz the opposition in the first 20 minutes and kill the game, then maintain on auto pilot for the remaining 60. I think phil clarke had a stat that of the 4 games this season wigan haven't scored first, they've lost 3 and drawn 1.

Only a few teams in the league have the ability to deal with this intensity so what happens is you get a team like salford, the game will be over after 20 and they're gone, and you'll either get a big big score from wigan, or a scrappy low intensity game like 40 - 10 where it looks like a good win but the performance for 3/4 of the game has been scrappy.

We've seen in the first half of the season especially wigan putting on alot of big big scores, but when they come up against a decent team who start well, they can lack the brains and stomach for the fight. I suppose you could class wigan as they currently are, [iflat track bullies[/i

Will we ever recover from the Warrington game? Its still in the system and the mental fatigue is evident. Physically the players are all carrying niggles and playing on dry rock hard summer pitches isnt helping, somehow Wane has got to inflate the confidence bubble again before the business end of the season, I think he can do it, last nights game was a massive lesson for a lot of players. Better that happened last night and not at Wembley

Says the guy who spends all day laughing at Huddersfield's small crowds rather than offering admiration for their vastly better league performances than his beloved Leeds.

You'd know all about what a vastly superior league performance got you last season.

What ... suddenly we're not talking about bullies anymore?

I wonder why that is.

Because you got defensive?

Excellent defence mechanisms.

Nah. Just sussed you.

Say what you like people...

We'll play London, Sam will feature and Lockers, everyone will click, people will praise other players performances and all will be forgotten.

However the next time Sam doesn't play....

Not really the case though, was it. We were without our two main strike players in Roby and Soliola, and Lomax only just scraped past a fitness test. We played without a Half-Back for 20 minutes. That's not to mention the other five we've had missing long term.

Both teams had players out, but Saints were the better side on the day.

Lost it because yet again the team allowed themselves to be wound up by McCarthy Scarsbrook, Wellans and Wilkin.

Time we cotton on to it.

Yes, but the difference is that we [ichose[/i to leave our best players out, knowing that we had a semi final 6 days later. As I've already said, I'd take losing on Monday if it meant that we win on Saturday.

Possibly - and that is to my way of thinking a sign of inexperience (Dudson and Flower esp), it was noticable that our better forwards on the day (Farrell and possibly Crosby) didn't get dragged in. That is where I think we missed Lockers and Hansen to calm things down and get stuck in without getting too wound up.