Good point. I'm for some kind of promotion and relegation, but I think potentially going semi-proffesional to proffesional and vice versa could prove a problem. If we could somehow get 2 leagues of 10 on similar salary caps and funding from the RFL it could work quite well... getting that however, well!

I fail to see how any of thos suggestions will improve anything. It may apease a few clubs in the championship but I fail to see how it will actually improve anything. The NRL is the most competetive rugby comp in the world because it has 16 teams of good quality who are capable of beating each other on any given day, yes some are better than others but overall the standard is excellent. There's is no P & R and a top 8 play off system but the week in week out intensity is always high.

The structure of the league isn't the issue, the infastructure of a lot of the SL clubs is. Changing the structure of the league and affecting the stability of the lower clubs won't improve that.

I'd also question whether full time SL is sustainable in places like Fev, Leigh, Batley and Workington. There's a couple of clubs like Halifax, and Sheffield who might be able sustain full time RL long term but, it will take a lot longer than a few months for them to be able to build a good enough infastructure off the field, and a squad good enough to avoid relegation and be competetive.

The top 4 in the NRL are head and shoulders above the rest, the concept that all NRL teams are equally as competitive is nonsense.

They are, but the overall intensity week in week out is still far higher than in SL. There're still some poor games and wide blowout scores as well but you don't see the Austrailians introducing radical new league structures that won't actually fix anything.

On the red button after the Huddersfield and Leeds match .Nigel Wood said that there are 4 proposals under discussion and the 2 leagues of 12 reverting to 3 eight was gaining a lot of interest both at SL and Championship level .He also hinted that the salary cap was also under discussion maybe with a top up for 2 marque players over the cap limit.

And did he mention where the money to fund this is going to come from or is he still looking to give Super League sponsorship away for free?

John Wilkin did he is the spokesman for the players union and he said that the product on the field deserves more money pumped into it and the RFL are trying to get blue chip companies to invest in our sport .I thought Wilkins was a tongue in cheek effort towards the BBC who only pay 3 million for the CC.Nigel Wood indicated that the top four in division 2 would get more money to make them into a full time pro clubs and eventually over the years make all 24 full time pro. Noble and Millward with comments from Dave Wood could only see the changes as for the good of the game Dave wood was in the opinion of IL that the England team would benefit from the players going to the NRL whereas Wilkin disagreed and said that we should keep our players over here .Nigel Wood also said that to expand the game and give the England tri nation some better opposition was to consider Toulouse into SLE.

Well Tony Smith has weighed in on the subject. Have a read of this:

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Ignore the stuff about Salford and points deduction, it's the rest of what he has to say that is pertinent to this thread.

IMO it is a side swipe at Nigel Woods and his "fantasy RL" ideas.

He's basically asking why are you faffing about putting alternatives forward and has anyone actually thought through the consequences of any of them (his comments on P&R for example)?

I think a lot of people have been intrigued by the split league idea and there is a lot of support for P&R but when the dust settles the questions that need asking are why are we doing this, does it solve the fundamental problem the game has which is financial weakness and is it workable (P&R wasn't before so why is it now)?

As I have said elsewhere I don't think it does. Changing the league structure is window dressing and it is Nigel (head in the sand) Woods latest wheeze and nothing more.

Smith has realised this and is the first senior figure in the game I am aware of to question the RFL's leadership and he is spot on IMO.

really? which 4?

Surely two tens ticks most boxes, and ensures twenty FT teams

South Sydney, Melbourne, Roosters and Manly. They are of a different quality to the other teams at the moment and I'd say Manly are bellow the other 3 stated.

so the Bulldogs, last years finalists and the broncos are not in the same class?