Just noticed this interview with Wane on the Wigan site. www.wiganwarriors.com/WContent.a ... &type=news Some good stuff in it. Particularly about the juniors, and how Shaun wants to keep a big involvement with them personally.

Just noticed this interview with Wane on the Wigan site. www.wiganwarriors.com/WContent.a ... &type=news Some good stuff in it. Particularly about the juniors, and how Shaun wants to keep a big involvement with them personally.

Good luck to Wane,served his apprentrsgip and deserves his chance but so did Agar who worked under Kear and Sharp( we Won the cup with Kear and went to a GF with Sharp) and we have had 4 yrs of dross with him in charge and took the club backwards at a alarmingg rate...2 bottom 3 finishes,6th and 8th in his tenure as well has having 3 assistants as well......NO2's dont always make great coaches.

True but almost every coach was a number 2 at some point.

Wane to Maguire - Maguire to Bellamy - Bellamy to Wayne Bennett

I agree mate and some take to it naturally....just saying that we got a total numpty.Mind you,our new coach is a no2 as well so we are still in same boat.

As a outsider looking in,i think you have squad trouble as well...You never replaced Gleeson,Tomkins isnt a centre and looks to be off....Charnley is still unproven and needs a good centre with him.Deacon too old and Leuluai best position is hooker imo so that leves you needing a 6 0r 7 to go with Finch and another Hooker as i dont rate Mcliorum...you struggle when he is on.Your pack looks ok but Hock out for the 1st 3 weeks?

Haven't you learned yet? It's the last 3 weeks that matter, nothing else.

Point taken!

Agar is just a freak exception to the rule imo. There cant be that many people around who could do so sh*t imo.

I expect Hull to improve dramatically next season just by getting rid of him

what would possibly be the or else....??

I dont understand Why people dont want a former Top quality player a former Superleague Coach and current International coach as an Assistant...its quite ridiculous.....

Exactly my point. Its a ridiculous thought!

I hope Wane does a god job. I don't think you should give him a break just because of who he is - but he deserves a bit of patience given the likely changes in your squad from this year to next. If you lose Tomkins and Hoffman and Deaccon, you've lost a strike player and two very experienced pros. Not easy to replace at all - not impossible but it'll take time.

I dont have a problem with Harris, I would have prefered Lammie but i think Harris did a decent job under difficult conditions at Crusaders. Ithink Wane will do a good job but all we can do is give them both a chance and see what happens.

Since when has being a former top quality player been a guarantee of being a top coach? Never.

Ditto being an ex SL coach. Do you want Agar or Millward here?

As to being an International coach, he is coach of Wales FFS.

The only thing that is ridiculous is the suggestion that Harris CV is as impressive as you make out. Talk about over stating the case