Correct me if I’m wrong but was 2006 the last time someone won both the challenge cup and the super league in the form of St Helens?

Since then Saints have won the challenge cup in 07,08 and appeared in the grand final only to fall to Leeds. I think them two years have created the myth more than ever that a good challenge cup run hinders your grand final chances.

Leeds have helped that myth further by having a bad challenge cup run as well. Wigan are the same this year in terms of the cup run and looking to win the championship.

It’ll be interesting to see if this years challenge cup winners can go on to win the super league grand final as 3 of the 4 semi finalist have a chance of doing so.

Either way if Leeds don’t retain the championship this year it’ll be for the good of the game but I just can’t see it. My theory on Wigan is you’ve improved you’re league form but come play off time there’s a good chance you’ll be exposed as the third best team in the country once again.

Good luck and I hope I get proven wrong

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Leeds deserve to be below them two when it comes to fear because its 2010 not 2009. I’m not going to make excuses for the way Leeds have performed this year in the league but you’ve got to admire our challenge cup run.

That's right BUT Saints were top and clear top going into that 2006 cup final. Thats a huge difference to this year where they are third and still having to battle for a home game, just like Warrington whilst Leeds are fighting for fourth. They didn't have to sweat on the league position that August.

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I honestly hang my head in shame at some of the pathetic posts by so called wire fans. OP you are a door handle.

Agreed,

I was totally gutted when we went out of the cup. Now ive come to think of it as a blessing in disguise, as the break has come just at the right time. Although given the chance id still rather be in a CC semi anyday.

Agreed x 2.

But ateotd, we lost to Leeds at Headingley. Wire haven't had a game that hard in this years comp, or last years. Luck of the draw innit.

I'll be watching extended in-depth analysis of Wire's previous trophy winning seasons.

Reet, that's 9:00 until five past on Saturday sorted. As for the rest of the weekend, I'll be decorating and looking forward to seeing something shiny at the Pie Dome next weekend.

You seem to have an unhealthy outlook on whenever teams sweat or not

I still insist that the difference this year compared to other years is Wigan’s league form. Come the play off’s you’ll be as good as they come just have you always have been when in the play offs in recent years. Last year in particular you went better than three teams above you in the table (Huddersfield, Hull KR &Wakefield). However Catalan Dragons had a more remarkable play off run in 2009.

But the past few years have seen you not doing so well in the league as your doing this year. Come play off time who knows what will happen?

Less of this mystic meg stuff anyways of what’s going to happen. We’re like a pair of squabbling Psychics chancing our arm on who’ll be grand final winners. Either way it'll be intresting

Finally I’d just like to thank you for the rugbyleagueontv website you run

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