With any luck, next time they meet, Roby will heed this wise advice. I really, really hope he does.

PS: Just in case you've forgotten, it was Tommy L - all 12 stone of him - who easily put down Mary Vasavalu with a shoulder charge.

I understand that confusion often occurs in St Helens when it comes to historical revisionism.

Your spot on about that!!!!!!



I wish we had Mary Fussoveraloadapoo, He's a 60 minute workhorse if ever I've seen one!!!!!!!!

Wigan make 1 tackle in the 77th minute and the stains would have been throwing the ropes over the Joists!!!!!!

Yes we didn't complete as well as we should, yes we did panic at certain times etc etc

But you know what, they know it, we know it, were not far off!!!!!!!!!!!

I dont care what little man syndrome did to Fasavalau. Go and start another thread about it. I am talking about how easily roby brings down feka.

Why are wigan fans so defensive???? I was making a point that Feka isnt really good enough for a top team, a sentiment that pretty much everyone agrees with bar wigan fans and you jump on me. FWIW, I dont particulary rate Fasavalu anymore, but you wont find me throwing my toys out of the pram if you say something bad about him.

Ah, I get it. You don't want to talk about it because it means you can't have a gloat without looking a complete dispstick.





And you don't throw your toys out of the pram????





In actual fact, it's a totally relevant point. It means one of two things - either small guys taking big guys is not totally unusual - they're all skilled athletes after all, who've been trained in tackling techniques, or your memory is somewhat faulty. I suspect the latter, because I've never seen Roby take Feka once on his own, but the world and his brother has seen a little chap deck your so-called hardcase with no effort whatsoever.

And that's an undeniable fact, fella - not something a bored Wigan fan thought he'd make up to try and irritate the opposition. Deal with it.

Meli does his job properly in the first half and you would have been zilled.

What was your point?

The point perhaps is that you're miles better than us - or so we've been repeatedly told in recent years. Yet twice this year there was almost nothing in it, and once you got wasted.

You're either having a very bad season, or you're not as far ahead of us as some of your fans like to think.

Don't relax too much on the strength of a close, tight win. Saints will need to improve across the board, radically, if they want to keep their crown.

and then Mary went on to pretend he was injued to milk a penalty didn't he?

Tough lad, indeed.

In recent seasons we [ihave[/i been miles better than you.

We've been a touch inconsistent this season, but I'd say you have improved, even since the start of the season. A number of your young prospects have come in and performed well, possibly better than could be resonable expected.

One thing we have got is that when we've [ihad[/i to play we have done. The big test of that is the rest of the season, we've no real bankers left so are going to have to step it up if we are to be successful this year.

John Monie once said "Great teams aren't great all of the time, great teams are great when they need to be"

And that's why Saints are a very very good team but not a great team.

And your 1st try came from a massive deflection. So in essence you got lucky - whereas Meli's was a mistake. What's your point.

How have I thrown my toys out of the pram? I was making a point about Feka, a fair point at that, i just didnt expect it to touch a nerve with you, hence all the smilies to try and make yourself look like you are getting one over on me.

Roby has brought down feka plenty of times, just watch the replays. Feka is only half decent if you are a team like Cas, who dont know anything about tactics.