We all have to support a Lesser team in One Sport don't we? Means we enjoy the success more for our other team! Im guessing you must be a Man U fan in football?

Nope City.




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Moran was NOT fullback v Saints that day.

It was another Millward first.
It was Sean Gleeson, a player who had never played in that position before in his entire career.

A player who definately couldn't handle playing for a 'big' club was Jimmy Birts, signed by Maurice Bamford, we were told he was " Quick, brave, great defender and excellent goal kicker ", none of these qualities did he show in his time at Wigan, if you think Moran was bad, talk to people that saw Birts play !!!!!!!

I always thought that Moran was a little unlucky. He was signed to be a try scoring half back. Wigan still had Farrell and it was expected that Moran would "run off" Farrell. However, Farrell went to Rugby Union and Wigan then expected Moran to be a playmaker, something he clearly wasn't and the situation went downhill.

I think it's written in a book somewhere that the signing of Birts was one of the things that led Lindsay, Robinson and co to decide that Maurice Bamford wasn't the man to take Wigan forward.

My only real memory of Birts is that he looked incredibly frail compared to all the other players. For a professional rugby player, he really was stick-thin.

It's in ' The Best Years Of Our Lives' by Paul Wilson.............................. On the day Bamford left Jack Robinson asked him " If you had your time at Wigan again would you do it all exactly the same" " Yes " replied Bamford, " What, even Jimmy Birts ! " said Robinson, " Especially Jimmy Birts " he replied, I knew then we had made the right decision ( to sack Bamford ) thought Robinson.

p.s. A great book if anyone out there hasn't read it.

and gleeson didnt do TOO badly in that game

David Hodgson against Saints when they kicked for a 40/20 in the dying seconds(I think), it was going out on the full and he tried to keep it in and made a mess of it. Tommy Martyn took advantage and scored.

Wonder if Leneghan will ever have the same conversation with noble re: mathers?

I Doubt it

Cracking read



At least Jimmy could say he has pulled on the cherry & white. Very dark days those.