All of the above + a steely determination to defend (particularly on the goal line) which seems to have got much worse for us this season

You got the feeling that they had a total disregard for their own safety they way they defended at times over the past few years, and teams were a bit wary of it. Not seeing much of that now (certainly over an extended period)

I was actually shocked that to read that we have the 3rd best defense in the league!

I don't think many people would disagree that we've cr@p defensively either.

If we could get the attack something like (4th worst the league) then we'd be leading the charge for 4th/5th imo.

The weather come playoff time is always superb isn't it.................................

Yet if we meet in the playoffs you will cack yourself.

The idea that you’re going to do ‘damage’ in the play offs simply because puddings like Clubb, Isa, Powell and so on have all (somehow) been part of Grand Final winning sides is absolute nonsense. As soon as you face Saints or Wire (if you get that far) you are going to lose. How are we on cruise control this time every year? Last season was the first time we finished top since 2014 and we won the Grand Final that year beating Wane’s Wigan.

I agree with the overall point about the standard of SL being rubbish but no real stand outs? Thompson, Roby and Walmsley is a front row that is better than a lot of NRL sides and is world class. Whilst Coote fell out of favour last season, he was a key part of the Cowboys side which won a Grand Final and got to another. He was being touted for Origin at one point and turned down big offers from the Sydney clubs. He’s the best fullback in SL by a mile and would get into several NRL sides with the way he’s playing. And Aussie clubs are knocking the door down to get our players, Walmsley turned down St George to sign a new contract, there’s a lot of interest in Thompson and Holbrook hasn’t yet signed a new contract so it’s very possible he could leave at the end of the season as well.

All things you said about Ben Barba last season when you won the.......oh wait a minute.

Struggling to see the relevance, I was responding to Coote being labelled as nothing special in the NRL.

Fixed that for you

Course it was

Gleeson (Sean)
Dallas, Aspinwall, Wild, Carney
Brown, Moran,
Seu Seu, Newton, Sculthorpe, Allen, Tickle,Beswick.

Replacements: Hansen, Godwin, Guisset, Hargreaves.

It was even worse at the time then it looks on paper as kids like Hansen, Hargreaves and Beswick went on to have good careers but were all junior players. I look at that realistically and think that Terry Newton is the only cert to get on our current best 17. The two wingers would probably get in (although a fully fit Manfredi could take either) and then maybe somebody like Danny Shorpe or Guisset.

In short you’re chatting out of your backside (as usual).

Regards

Nice to see old friends returning....

All this rain was bound to flush up a turd or two!

Puddings who have more SL rings than basically the entire Saints team LOL. Hey I’m delighted you are so confident, it’s last year all over again minus super Benny Barba

You’d better hope Wigan don’t make their way into the playoffs and come up against you, because it is YOU who will your pants and lose. When it comes to the crunch we’ve got your number and you know it, even a Tesco Value Wigan will scare the life out of Saints.