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The timing of our attack is way off with passes constantly missing the mark and that's hard to cope with when you play the style we do.

It always seems to be the case when Lockers is out that our organisation goes to pot. He seems to hold everything together and we need him back ASAP.

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Clubb and Mossop played well in the front row, although they weren't really up against much.. Tomkins had some good runs in the first half. Smith played a little better individually but there still looked to be little organisation or structure to what we were trying to do.
Williams didn't look right at hooker. I don't know why he was moved from stand off because he was showing some good signs and offered a much needed direct style of play. Powell has gone okay but I can't help but think that Wane has gone back on his claim that he'd give Williams time.
Bowen still offers very little. When he joins the attacking line there's little threat and he messed up a try scoring opportunity with a poor pass and that's not the first time he's done that this year. Hampshire may well be worth another go despite his defensive weaknesses at fullback. He offers a greater threat in attack. Sarge is our best fullback but he's tied down at centre because we don't have adequate cover there.
The pack will hopefully improve as players regain fitness. A fully fit Tautai with Mossop and Clubb in good form isn't a bad front row, although it's not going to strike fear into teams. Bateman has done well. Tomkins has shown brief glimpses of what he can do but Farrell still disappoints. Perhaps he's struggling from the internationals at the end of last year.

It's probably not surprising that our attack is struggling. Green and O'Loughlin were the two big creative influences last season and we don't have either of them in the side. They were both huge influences and we haven't found players who are capably of providing what they did to the side.

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Clubb had a blinder as did Mossop going off the stats.

www.superleague.co.uk/report/11058

Larne Patrick's stats awful again. We may as well give Connor Farrell or Rhodri Lloyd a go. There's a decent prop/loose forward playing well for HKR who I'd rather have in the squad at present.
Clubb had a blinder as did Mossop going off the stats.

www.superleague.co.uk/report/11058

Larne Patrick's stats awful again. We may as well give Connor Farrell or Rhodri Lloyd a go. There's a decent prop/loose forward playing well for HKR who I'd rather have in the squad at present.


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Quote: NickyKiss "Clubb had a blinder as did Mossop going off the stats.


Patrick is really disappointing. He just isn't up to it. His fitness is shocking - he was blowing for tugs after about 15 minutes and subbed off with our starting props after 20. Lockers breezes through 80 minutes at Loose and Bateman was getting through double the amount of work than the what Patrick did last night.

Clubb and Mossop were awesome last night (Clubb has been all season), they could become a formidable front row for us. Although I don't remember Clubb missing 7 tackles... icon_confused.gif

Also, one I've just remembered - why was Farrell penalised for picking up that ball when Hull had no dummy half? Surely that's just a free ball and anyone can go for it? I thought that rule about reaching around the play the ball was when the dummy half is passing.

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Quote: Wigg'n "Patrick is really disappointing. He just isn't up to it. His fitness is shocking - he was blowing for tugs after about 15 minutes and subbed off with our starting props after 20. Lockers breezes through 80 minutes at Loose and Bateman was getting through double the amount of work than the what Patrick did last night.

Clubb and Mossop were awesome last night (Clubb has been all season), they could become a formidable front row for us.'"


Get Flower and Lockers in that pack and it has a totally different feel. Flower and Mossop starting with Clubb and Tautai from the bench looks pretty formidable especially if we can get Lockers back holding it all together.

One point I would make about that four though is Tautai needs to get fitter. He's a handful for sure and I'm prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt that his Wigan career has been stop start due to injuries which will affect his fitness but he looks a yard off the pace a lot of the time to me.

If he can get fitter then great but if not I think we should look at replacing Pettybourne mid season to add more competition.

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Quote: Wigg'n "Patrick is really disappointing. He just isn't up to it. His fitness is shocking - he was blowing for tugs after about 15 minutes and subbed off with our starting props after 20. Lockers breezes through 80 minutes at Loose and Bateman was getting through double the amount of work than the what Patrick did last night.

Clubb and Mossop were awesome last night (Clubb has been all season), they could become a formidable front row for us. Although I don't remember Clubb missing 7 tackles... MT is marker tackles not missed tackles, which is MI.
Farrell wasn't square.

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Quote: Wigg'n "Patrick is really disappointing. He just isn't up to it. His fitness is shocking - he was blowing for tugs after about 15 minutes and subbed off with our starting props after 20. Lockers breezes through 80 minutes at Loose and Bateman was getting through double the amount of work than the what Patrick did last night.'"


I could understand why Wigan loaned out Greg Burke, because it looked like we had lots of competition for places, but I can't understand why we can guarantee a place in the side for a loan player like Patrick and wouldn't do the same for a young player we already had. At least Burke offers a passing game and is better at that 'pivot' type role than both Patrick and Bateman. Even Jack Hughes could offer more by allowing Bateman or Farrell the chance to play down the middle at 13.

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Quote: Grimmy "MT is marker tackles not missed tackles, which is MI.
Farrell wasn't square.'"


Ah yeah. Cheers.

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We're not far off, I counted 3 bombed tries in the second half alone. Defence was much better we looked like we were getting more numbers in the tackle. Clubb and Mossop were great. Once we get O'Loughlin and Flower back the pack will be much better. I also thought Bowen, aside from the error for their try, was much brighter and was good at starting our sets. The passes just aren't sticking at the moment and I am intrigued to see how we go at Headingley next week.

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Quote: Wigg'n "Ah yeah. Cheers.'"


Farrell was square, but you cannot come round the ruck, even if no receiver, it is a little known rule that players and fans fall foul of regularly.....

it think it is a silly rule and if the team with the ball fail to get their act together at the PTB the defence should be able to take advantage

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Quote: Carneys Cover "Farrell was square, but you cannot come round the ruck, even if no receiver, it is a little known rule that players and fans fall foul of regularly.....

it think it is a silly rule and if the team with the ball fail to get their act together at the PTB the defence should be able to take advantage'"


Yeah it does seem pretty stupid.

We should exploit it against Leeds by purposely not having a DH and rack up a load of penalties. Although no doubt it'll be a different ref and they would make a different decision...

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Well I was made up with the win

The discipline which has been shocking, was greatly improved. Only 5 penalties?

Mossops display was very good as was Joel in the first half.

And am I the only one who thought Powell did ok?

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Quote: Cherry.Pie "I could understand why Wigan loaned out Greg Burke, because it looked like we had lots of competition for places, but I can't understand why we can guarantee a place in the side for a loan player like Patrick and wouldn't do the same for a young player we already had. At least Burke offers a passing game and is better at that 'pivot' type role than both Patrick and Bateman. Even Jack Hughes could offer more by allowing Bateman or Farrell the chance to play down the middle at 13.'"


Burke is ideally suited to playing 13 in our system IMO and I'd love to have him in the team now. He would organise that middle far better and get quality ball out to the backline.

He's another Hampshire for me in that I've never understood why he's not been given more opportunities. I was hugely impressed when he first broke in the first team. He played a few games and then got left out for one and that was pretty much that.

With Lockers injury record he should definitely be back with Wigan next year.

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Quote: Aboveusonlypie "Well I was made up with the win

The discipline which has been shocking, was greatly improved. Only 5 penalties?

Mossops display was very good as was Joel in the first half.

And am I the only one who thought Powell did ok?'"


Stats from last night.
Impressive from Tony Clubb.

www.superleague.co.uk/report/11058

We need to start putting the chances away, that game should have been out of sight by 20 points plus in the first half. Then Hull scored early on in the second half and the team (and crowd) got very nervous.
Fair play to Matty Smith I thought he had a much better game last night, but I'm not sure if the Smith - Powell combination is the right one as they are similar players.
Quote: Aboveusonlypie "Well I was made up with the win

The discipline which has been shocking, was greatly improved. Only 5 penalties?

Mossops display was very good as was Joel in the first half.

And am I the only one who thought Powell did ok?'"


Stats from last night.
Impressive from Tony Clubb.

www.superleague.co.uk/report/11058

We need to start putting the chances away, that game should have been out of sight by 20 points plus in the first half. Then Hull scored early on in the second half and the team (and crowd) got very nervous.
Fair play to Matty Smith I thought he had a much better game last night, but I'm not sure if the Smith - Powell combination is the right one as they are similar players.


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