What a legend. And a great man. He will be hard to replace, but it can be done. He is a great kicker but it's worth remembering that he only developed that through practice and dedication after joining us. I would have though that, with his football pedigree, Smith could become a fine kicker as well.

sorry i meant overseas

Be honest, who expected him to stay 8 years when you signed him?

You've had tremendous value out of the guy, and he'll surely leave as one of the best overseas imports of the Super League era across the league, never mind at Wigan.

This is another departure I'd put under the 'manageable' category. He's been amazing and he should get a rousing send off but all good things come to an end and he deserves to take his family home.

The one thing I do agree with though is that good signings are a must. We don't have anybody ready to step in to his shoes unlike Mossops departure. We've got cash to spend and rafts of cap space. I'd guess Richards is one of our highest earners so add his cash to Mossops, Hock and any of others and we must bring a couple in.

We certainly must have loads of spare cap space swimming around for next season by now.

DO we give Gelling a run on the wing for a few of the remaining games this season? Because of the U19's and dual reg rules he can't get a game so if he is to be retained Wigan need to give him some decent game time.

He's just not a winger for my money, looks far more comfortable at centre. I'd like to see him get a run there and Thornley on the wing, that could be a very exciting combo

Briscoe or Broughton would be my two choices and in that order as well.

Another Aussie leaving and another English replacement.

Wane and IL have really made an emphasis on home grown players haven't they.

Not a bad thing either

Is Briscoe not all but confirmed to be going to the NRL?

Broughton is a good shout, he has not renewed his contract with Salford yet. We should get that scrote Longy to have a word in his ear.

Looking on the Hull board, there seems to be a low-key sense that Briscoe wants out, with a couple openly saying that thanks the scandal in Aus, Cronulla may no longer be his favoured destination and that Wigan will get him.

I like that thought.

I like Broughton too - very much, but I'd be surprised if the good doctor would let him go. Team building seems to be the thing at Salford, and money is no object any more.

tom lineham (spelling)? he would be one young winger i could see wane wanting, he's big, good hands, good core skills, good in the air and a good finisher. Hull fc are still in a mess even after adam persons hot air, and i cant seem them saying no or match the salary we could offer.

The key part in all of this that we are cashed up as well. Would a decent salary + the prospect of silverware be enough to entice players.

There's zero doubt in my mind both Hull and especially Salford would move heaven and earth to keep these two highly sort after and talented guys.

Both would be excellent replacements for Pat.