Given the extremely defensive attitude you've taken we can only assume you have some vested interest in the refereeing community. Given the ludicrous response above is it any wonder fans and coaches scratch their heads when they don't know from week to week how the ref is going to interpret the laws and guidelines of the game.

You were doing well, now you lost the arguement... The inconsistancy is noticable. I hope you are reffing at SL level soon so you can put things right...

never ref a game in my life and never intend to because no matter how hard u tried there is allways people to slag you off ,cheat ,liar dont know the rules and many more offensive ones that u may have used

Whats the point in the ref asking the VR to look at a specific incident if the VR will nit pick at every little thing and watch the same clips over and over hoping to see something?

Take the incident when Hansen (i think it was) was pulled up for obstruction. What if the ref on the field had deemed it to be legal, but then the VR disagrees and announces in front of the whole stadium that it was offside.

Ahhh. So let's forget the rules, which support my argument, as does the position in Australia. Its the "reality" that matters. Your "reality".

so the ref never gets a call from the tj or even changes his mind with info the tj gives him

Asking them to look at a specific incident allows them to skip straight to that point if there's no suspicion elsewhere - if when getting to that point you notice something blatantly wrong that should strike off the try, what do you do - ignore it?

As for the VR announcing that the ref was wrong? Good. Shows we care more about playing to the rules than feeding an ego. But a word in the ear would obviously be the best way to let a man in the stands help the man on the field. The big screen is obviously just a showpiece for the fans/sky.

Well given your stance in this thread at least something good has come out of it.



People just want consistency so everyone knows where they stand. The lack of consistency in interpretation is appalling at the moment and that is down to Cummins rather than the referees.

It wouldn't, but as that wasn't what I was saying it's an irrelevant point.

The VR should look at whatever it specifically is that has concerned the referee about a try. Not go through every single little thing leading up to it in case there was something he missed - which is very clearly what happened in the Catalan v Saints match, and has happened in Wigan matches. For Heaven's sake, at one time these idiots were allowed to go back three or four tackles - and that's what they used to do, until it became too embarrassing even for the RFL and was abolished.

By some folk's logic, we should video ref every moment of every game before deciding who the winner is, or failing that, all the other 'long plays' in case they too affected the outcome.

In any case, as the VR is only used in Sky matches, it can hardly be deemed that important a tool by the referees and their controller.

Nothing will happen until the chairmen & coaches collectively grow a pair & demand Cummings goes or bring in someone who knows what they're doing bangs the refs heads together & puts proper standards in place.
They're all scared of saying anything that could be interpreted as disrespectful or "bringing the game into disrepute", even when it's what everyone else is thinking.
The RFL board & refs make North Korea a progressive democracy in comparison.