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Quote: Tricky Dicky "He ran great lines on Friday night and was able to find the gap through some great finch ball work.

Good signs. H and Hoff to start at wire for first 20-25 mins. Hock off the bench'"

I agree, with Hoff and H you know you're going to get a solid first 20 minutes, the bring on Hock when the defence isn't as fresh and he should find the gaps.

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Hock and Hoffman are both left sided 2nd rowers. We can't start with both in their natural position.
Hoffman to start with HH and Hock off the bench when Hoffman is spelled.

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Quote: Father Ted "Hock and Hoffman are both left sided 2nd rowers. We can't start with both in their natural position.
Hoffman to start with HH and Hock off the bench when Hoffman is spelled.'"



Yep.

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Easy hat trick, the balls he was given made the scores. His fitness is a worry.

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Quote: {Hogan} "Easy hat trick, the balls he was given made the scores. His fitness is a worry.'"



Couldn't disagree more, I think his fitness is pretty impressive given how long he has been out of the game, He did approx 50-55 mins on Friday which is more than enough for a SR/prop that is likely to be spelled.

I agree that they were easy tries but he has to be in the position to score them, working as well with Finch as he was on Friday he will get plenty more.

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Saturday would be an excellent game for Gaz to score another hattrick.... icon_razz.gifRAY:

Having him coming off the bench against Wire is a big bonus. I think our bench could well be the difference on Saturday.

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Hock has the aggression to match what will be thrown at him, we haven't had that lately against wire. They play games against us like a cup final, aggressive, fast and like a knock out game.

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It will be great against Wire because they're gonna really give him some stick I reckon and he'll just get fired up and smash em.

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Quote: Jeff the God of Biscuits "I'd start Hock personally, I want us to go in all guns blazing in the first 20 mins.'"


Same here, get him running at Briers.

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Quote: 21-12 "&quot;Jeff the God of Biscuits&quot; wrote

If Hock targeted Briers, Briers go off 'injured' in that same set!

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Quote: Jeff the God of Biscuits "I'd start Hock personally, I want us to go in all guns blazing in the first 20 mins.'"


You can't just decide to go in all guns blazing and expect it to happen. If Wire get early possession then Wigan might not see much of the ball and patience will be essential. Wire are the very best at making a quick start and sticking Hock on the field straight away could play straight into their hands as they exploit his defence. He wasn't great defensively before he was banned and it won't have improved a great deal while he's been out of the game. Match fitness is still an issue and give Wire a chance to target him and they will, and they'll probably come out on top.
Against Wakefield his attacking play was good but he only made 11 tackles. He wasn't tested at all and it's tackling that will really test his match fitness.

For me, Hock is still a massive risk, especially defending in the back row and Liam Farrell is by far the safer option, especially defensively.

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Quote: Cherry.Pie "For me, Hock is still a massive risk, especially defending in the back row and Liam Farrell is by far the safer option, especially defensively.'"


Playing Hock was always a risk, his threat to wire outweighs the risk for me.

He should be on the bench with hoffman to start for me

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Quote: shambawangy "Playing Hock was always a risk, his threat to wire outweighs the risk for me.

He should be on the bench with hoffman to start for me'"


Spot on.

Hock has always played the game on the edge but his attributes he brings to the side far outweigh any flaws wire could target.

We can maximise his good points and try to lessen any risks by playing him from the bench and injecting him at certain times.

Let's go and win this game and not fall into the trap of trying not to lose it. We were guilty of that at Leeds in the cup last year IMO.

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Quote: NickyKiss " Let's go and win this game and not fall into the trap of trying not to lose it '"


Absolutely.

This isn't going to be a game for the timid, that's for sure.

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Quote: shambawangy "Playing Hock was always a risk, his threat to wire outweighs the risk for me.

He should be on the bench with hoffman to start for me'"


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