Newton was caught out of competition, also he didnt need to be caught as he admitted to doing it

Well take it up with the RFL.

Hock was caught under WADA regs and was punished in line with their policy.

HGH is performance enhancing, which is a year-round no-no. "Recreational" drugs are only illegal in-competition.

Of course Gareth Hock was prone to moments of sheer stupidity, but you have to remember he was in a poor side that was poorly coached. We were famous for one man rugby. No dummy runners, no runners off the ball, poor formations and structures.

And was still a regular selection for GB/England, despite that.

Hock is still awaiting clearance to start training. The club are still awaiting a date for a hearing to get clearance from wada

Exactly. He's a game winner, I'd have him in the squad even if he played like he did before he was banned. And I'm sure under Madge's tuition he'll be even better than that.

I'd accept the criticism that he doesn't fit into our new style of play if that was the case if he was actually back yet and played like he didn't. But we aren't professional coaches and I'm very sure they will have accepted his style of play is different to our current one.

Let's just remember in a few months we're going to have a forward back that was one of the best in the league 2 years ago. Is that really that bad?

I gather its nearly time for his return but is he coming back to Wigan? Just wondered as it seems to have gone quiet on him.

Yes, wigan are just working on getting the OK for him to start training with the squad.

He should bring some fire into our pack!

Him and Hoffman will run riot!

How can they afford him on salary cap though?

Because they left room, anticipating the deal beforehand...

Hoffman isn't a run riot kind of player though, he is hard working and hits hard.

Hock will come on the field and give us instant impact and I'm sure he can win us alot of pens.

We are paying him in tesco clubcard vouchers.