He can come on for McIlorum with Smith going to 9, or he can come on for either of the halves If they underperform, or if they're dealing with Sam too easily we can bring him on at full back with Sam going into the halves. It gives us options to change the momentum if we find things aren't going our way after half an hour or so, and it effectively provides cover for 1-7 and 9. Then you have props and back rowers on the bench anyway. We used to do a similar thing in '11 with McIlorum coming off the bench for Deacon with Leuluai moving from hooker to scrum half.

Yeh and I used to hate it. Can see the reasoning behind your thinking, just don't agree with it .

The majority of the top hookers in the NRL play the full 80 and I think McIlorum should. I think the tactic of having a hooker on the bench is becoming a bit outdated, unless you've got someone in the Burrow/Higham mould who you can bring on to scoot at tired defenders. I think this season will have benefitted Logan immensely in terms of the experience he's gained, and he has had some excellent moments, but I really hope we don't see him in the 17 again this season.

I've seen him driving to training most days this week, so his foot can't be too knackered - although I appreciate controlling pedals and running are two totally different things...

I do think he could prove to be a decent asset to Wigan in the future, I just think at this moment in time he is too raw and has too much to learn to be starting games at prop in playoff games. I'd have no problem with him coming on 10 minutes before half time because due to his size, strong running and offloading he'd cause problems to tiring defences.

Oh dear - have a guess who has written this?



No you made yourself look an idiot by admitting to breaking the AUP.

The next time you derail a thread will be the last time you post on here.

So you are using a comment I said on an entirely different website against me?? Unbelievable

P.S. I haven't admitted anything. Read carefully - I said "I may" have gone looking for a reaction. You really are clutching at straws here. I haven't broken the AUP and you know it. Saying McIlorum didn't play well is stating an opinion, which I am entitled to do.

Well, every village has one...

I never said you broke the AUP about McIlorum - HTH.

However your actions and now your comments show you up for what you are.

End of conversation.

What I am is somebody who is understandably aggrieved at what is blatant unfair treatment.

I agree, if were you, i would never set foot in here again... Bunch of barstewards,,,,

It's a ruddy rugby forum, not an employment tribunal.

Seriously, chill out.

Hold on. I'm being threatened with bans for simply stating my opinion on rugby matters. Surely it isn't me that needs to chill out?

Will somebody tell this idiot who reported his comment off Redvee as he seems to think I did it.

I read them for myself on Red Vee last night - it's what happens what you post something on a public forum.

Someone owes you an apology.