Does this include the try where he just watched the Dragon (Menzies was it?) jump on the loose ball for the try despite having about 5 yards on him? Criminal defending.

It's always been a level playing field. Just because some other teams chose not to spend as much doesn't mean it wasn't possible for them to do so. An unlevel playing field would have been rules in place preventing teams from competing, which never existed - it was always down to the choice of the other teams. And Wigan were NEVER the only full-time team, and certainly not for the entire 8 years.

Even now, most clubs don't spend the full cap, so it's not a level playing field now, according to your twisted logic.

Shows what you know when didnt Leeds turn professional before Wigan?

Something I was thinking earlier...

Have the players who we have brought in this season disrupted the way we play?

Hoffman has already showed he is a quality player and a very good signing but we have an abundance of 2nd rowers.

Lima so far has spent more time banned than playing.

And finally with Finch, we have seen glimpses of what he can do, but so far plays seems to stop or lose momentum when he gets the ball.

No doubt these players have added to the strength of the squad, but maybe there's more to this. Suppose we will only truly find out in October...

You sound like a Hull KR fan.

Level playing field? You're apparently a Leeds fan, but clearly know nothing of the history of your own club. You have embarrassed yourself.

Saints fan talking about a breach of the salary cap. How ironic!

A Saints fan talking about salary cap breaches

You're either a really poor troll or your knowledge of RL can be written on a postage stamp.

Fielden crossed my mind last night too. Does make you wonder.

I feel, Gleeson made Goulding look good.

We definately need a organiser @ hooker, we need another top class centre to replace Glesson and perhaps its time we brought Pyrce back from Harlequins.

The team needs a bit of a kick and if there is some issues left over from the Gleeson senario then they need to be aired in a behind the doors team meeting and we need to move on. Because the home form is nothing short of sh@t and has been for a bit (in big games), and with a packed house & Saints coming in 2 weeks we could get another kicking.

Not knee jerk, just worried.

Might it be fair to say that the intensity of that recent Wire/Wigan game may have taken a little bit of oomph out of both sides??...

Certainly, from a Wire point of view, it appears we are struggling to raise our game mentally, after what was a pretty outstanding effort at your place...Also, a few guys are obviously struggling stamina-wise.

I noticed something similar in your game with Leeds, and I presume you performed with the same lack of energy last night too?

The effort from Marsh tonight was outstanding, if more experienced members of the team had shown half of it, then we would have been ok.

Still think he should be a winger rather than a centre, as I think he's got higher potential than Goulding in the long term, but never seems to want to pass. He does have one valuable asset that can't be coached - raw pace.