Though I'm not happy about this development with Sam, that it's turned into 46-page moan-a-thon is a tad embarrassing.

Let's be honest. The Barbarians game will be over in a few days time, and will quickly recede into history. Then, theoretically, Sam will be a Wigan player again, as he said in his interview, committed to us for the next three years at least, "maybe the next five".

Shouldn't hang fire now and rather than continue to attack our star player in the most vociferous terms, wait and see if he's as good as his word?

Most of my posts are excellent. I'm an all round excellent character.



So anyway, what channel is this game on? Where will they play him? If he's on the wing he probably won't touch the ball, if it's full back I hope he has his catching hands on.

Well thank God someone else can see the obvious. There is certainly more interest in the Ba Baas game (which these days are far from what they used to be in importance) in RU circles due to this so we have done a fine job of promoting it for them.

Will he be has effective as people think in Union, the easiest way to stop Tomkins is go for he legs, league players don't do this as often because of our better skill, if you go around the legs the player will just offload it so what you find his the first man tries to wrap up the ball and Sam is great at evading that. In union the majority of their guys tend to go for legs rather than wrap the ball up because if the man is still on his feet you get all his team mates pushing him forward in a big daft union maul.

It all depends on whether it's one of those Barbarians games, like the one with the famous Gareth Edwards try, which look spectacular because no-one's actually doing any tackling at all. Sam would shine easily in a match like that one.

Correct but RL has ambushed RU for the coverage.

If Sam was not playing then there would be no mention of him or Wigan, or RL.... but he is playing and there is clips of him playing for Wigan and scoring tries... the commentators will be talking about him and Wigan. Something that would not be happening normally.

Rugby League is the talk of the RU news despite there being a big match on saturday.

dont cloud the issue with reasoned arguments!

Recently the news about the game appears to be about Cipriani and Pocock (unless you are talking about the BBC but they appear to be obsessed with ST), the RU fanbase appears to be talking about domestic fixtures and latest rounds of the European Cup. Once the initial story broke there has been little comment on the story. Most of the talk seems to be RL articles and mostly fans this thread is a clear demonstration of that.

Quote Mr.No.It.All="Mr.No.It.All"Interview with Wish FM. Fair comments IMO www.wishfm.net/news/local/listen ... erview-32/'" Listening to that I think I was right. He want's the adulation, recognition and publicity that player of his caliber deserves, and who can blame him. Particularly when his own sport doesn't even have any international fixtures set for next year, the year before a WC. Very poor do.

Quote Mr.No.It.All="Mr.No.It.All"Interview with Wish FM. Fair comments IMO www.wishfm.net/news/local/listen ... erview-32/'" Listening to that I think I was right. He want's the adulation, recognition and publicity that player of his caliber deserves, and who can blame him. Particularly when his own sport doesn't even have any international fixtures set for next year, the year before a WC. Very poor do.

Get a grip of your emotions. He hasn't suddenly left. This is a brilliant opportunity to get one over RU. All the publicity will be focused on Sam, Wigan and RL. This is a master stroke of publicity and Sam is still a Wigan player.

At least someone else gets it !!!

If you have a great product to sell (RL) surely its really good to get it on display in Harrods front window for the weekend !!!!! or am I beeing too simplistic

It's not even mentioned on today's Telegraph RU Internet page.

Front page news today is the Samoan Coach who has been fined 100 pigs for misbehaving at the World Cup.

The only place this is big news is in RL circles where some are ascribing much greater significance to this game in terms of its media profile than there is to try and justify the farce that him playing in it is.

All the Welsh Internationals chosen for the Ba Baas team have pulled out to train before they play a real International v Australia as has veteran Welsh half S Jones because his club have a league game on. That shows you how important this fixture is (not). The RFU have pulled a fast one in that they are using Sam T to bolster a flagging concept but it still isn't big news.

And that is before we even consider what a crazy idea trying to publicise RL via playing RU actually is.

Don't worry. I don't plan to waste more time



Doing a marketing degree and talking to experts about this exact issue means nothing as well