Much better

He makes a valid point though. Been complaint after complaint on here lately, although the ones about our performances and pack are valid.

I'm not being defensive, I'm calling you out on your BS statement;



I'm in no way saying that things are all sunshine lollypops at the club, but to suggest GW is going to Wire because we've regressed so much in 18 months is laughable - especially when you factor in that you guys have been equally bad.

He's gone for the cash and that's it.

he probably has gone for the cash.

but i'll ask you a straight forward question, Do you feel the team is in a better place now than it was when he left in 2019

Not even my opinions Guy, personally i think some of the complaints are a bit harsh, but i get it, you've got high standards so it's understandable.

Yes I do actually, that doesn't mean I'm happy with where we are at tho. I'd take this side all day over the one in 2019. Same pack + Bateman and the props are 18 months better (but still aren't good enough mind). 19 went out with a whimper to Salford and this one got to the GF.

I don't think you are getting the point I'm trying to make though, or you're just being a troll.

Like I said, there's issues at the club but there's only one side in the league I'd say have their $h!t together more than we do and it isn't Wire. To suggest it's a reason why GW went to you is laughable.

So?

Good luck to the lad. He isn't obliged to sign for us. If i was in his shoes i would do exactly the same. I am a Wigan fan through and through but i wouldn't think twice about having the opportunity to give my family a better life. It's only a game when all is said and done that we can all bicker about.

Correct, and at least he has gone to a club that is challenging for honours also. Had he signed for a mid-table club on the same money (or as you see in football when someone moves to a City or a Chelsea where they will never get a game) then you could question his motives, but he has signed for a good club on a good deal.

Fair enough & that's your choice (& GW's).

I wouldn't and plenty of others wouldn't too. For every mercenary, there's people who've stayed at a single club and turned down big money moves.

It's up to the individual I guess. I'm just bored of the blanket/black and white approach of "it's more money so I'll go there" attitude and inability to see past it.

There's loads of examples of people sticking with the one club, due to loyalty etc. I'm just not sure why people seem to forget about them, or pretend like it doesn't happen?

There are loads yes, but while he is probably on a better deal financially he is also at a club where he could quite easily win things. They've won more than we have since 2018.

We're making it sound like he has turned honours down at Wigan to sign for Leigh.

I'd say it's the opposite. That somehow Wire have morphed into Saints and have dominated the league for the last 3 years.

on the upside, we have another villain to boo in a pantomime style....

And advise him that he once played for a big club

Canberra are a pretty big club to be fair.