You've proved nothing except that you don't like people disagreeing with you, and are still capable of having tantrums about it days, maybe even weeks, later.

No-one knows what's happening here, including you. In fact I've often thought from your previous posts that you know less than most - on just about every issue. So until we have proof (of the real sort, not of your imaginary sort) that the Wigan chairman has got something wrong, I WILL blindly defend him. Better that than blindly attacking him.

You think I'm an Ian Lenagan insider? Well, if it's any consolation I don't think you're a Dave Whelan insider. Because Dave Whelan would only use people who he knows can get a result for him.

Touche!!

For the love of god mate, this 'exact same thing' is from a club who's season was effectively over weeks ago, not one in a playoff spot. I wonder if they'd have done exactly the same if they'd actually been facing relegation and still had a chance to survive?

Is it so hard to comprehend that situations are not black and white, and that what's good for the goose isn't always good for the gander?

I'm now wishing IL would announce something, not because I have a burning desire to know or think it's necessary, but rather just to shut up a tiny handfull of posters on this forum as it's got beyond tiresome to read the same old stuff over and over and over and over and over and over and over........................................

Bloody hell it's like people who try and 'win' their point in a meeting by banging on and on until everybody else is so desperate for a pee that they just cave in.

You, DaveO, AJ, you all WIN if it will stop anymore of this.

OMG! talk about hard faced! I dont like people disagreeing with me? You are the absolute master of spitting the dummy out if somebody even questions your opinion never mind disagree's!



Where have i ever stated that i or anyone else knows whats happening? Ive given my opinion of what i think may of happened and that is based on what has been said/done. Since you have admitted you do not know what is happening then it kind of makes your argument that i am wrong plain daft!



I can live with that. I will hardly lose sleep because somebody who thinks they know it all and their word is final thinks that 'i know less than most'.



I have yet to see anyone attack him other than state they think he has handled the situation badly. Giving your opinion on what you think is right is hardly attacking somebody.



No your right im not a Dave Whelan insider

Look will you please read the posts properly instead of jumping the gun.

I stated that it would of been reasonable for IL to come out and say 'Brian Noble will not be here next year and we will make an announcement on the new coach as soon as possible'.

Cruncher then stated that IL would of looked like a prat if he had gone down that route.

Well 10 pages on im still wondering why IL would of looked like a prat.

I used the Celtic scenario as an example of a club announcing their coach is leaving without them stating who their new coach is.

Do you think they look like prats?

What I still fail to understand is why some people think they know how the club should be run. Is it unique to Wigan fans that they think they should be the ones to decide the timing of announcements etc? I'm baffled.

Only you could still be harbouring resentment about something said 10 pages ago or whatever it was. It seems more like 10 weeks to me, but clearly its still an open sore for you. Don't you get it that every situ at every club is different? You can't say: "Celtic did it so that means Wigan should too" - especially when you have no inside information at all (by your own admission), and expect to be taken seriously.

Give it a rest, mate. If you want to claim some kind of moral victory on the basis that Celtic, whose season is now over, have announced their changes for next season, while Wigan, who are in the play offs, are biding their time - fine, you can have it. Like the rest of the world cares (or even has a clue what you're chunnering about).

When you say "Wigan fans"... Its only a small number.. As its only a small number that "Walk".. its just suits some peoples opinion to exaggerate the truth to make a "truth".

You cant make things up just to suit your argument. I never ever said because Celtic did it so should we. What i said was there was no reason IL could not of told everyone that Brian Noble was leaving weeks ago. You rubbished what i said claiming IL would look like a prat as he didnt have a new coach to announce. Since nobody thinks Celtic are prats for doing exactly what i suggested then i fail to see why you think IL would of looked a prat and i am a 'plonker' as you said earlier in the thread. If you call somebody a plonker you have to expect them to come back at you not roll over and just agree with you that your right which it seems you think everybody should do.




Thanks,it takes a brave man to admit he was wrong

On the other hand there seems to be loads of people who think they know how the team should be coached!

At the end of the day the table doesn't lie!! We've finished 6th and the standard of the rugby across the board has been some of the poorest I’ve ever seen. Neither Saints or Leeds have been spectacular, Hull KR have had a poor finish to the year and Wakey have had their backs against the wall with injuries, Catalan have gone backwards and that’s just the top eight! Out side of the playoffs you’ve got teams like Celtic and Salford who haven’t got up to speed with SL and Bradford and Hull FC are shadows of their former self’s.

Noble has taken numerous bad decisions and calls during the season and the blame has to land at his door for what has been a very poor season;

-First game of the season why didn’t he start with a either Mcilorum or Tomkins on the bench? The game of musical chairs we played that day when Riddell went off was a farce tbf.

-Starting Feka in the first few games of the season meant we had zero impact mixed in with no hooker off the bench.

-Playing an unfit Roberts at the start of the season (Roberts imo is a good player but he was rushed back from an injury we were told would keep him out for a good few early games) It effected his confidence coming back unfit and not up to speed and provided zero benefit for the team.

-Dropping Sam Tomkins and rushing Riddell back from injury against Hull KR a week after Tomkins had won the CC game for us against Wakey was a stupid decision.

-Constantly picking Tim Smith even tho he couldn’t tackle to save his life!! He showed from the start of the season very little to justify the hype he came over with. Regardless of how well he can pass a ball it’s all pointless if he lets players go past him for fun.

-He’s not driving the players hard enough imo—Hock getting banned, Feka and Riddell not being as fit as they could be, Fielden performing inconsistent for the past few years and not being bulked up even tho any man and his dog can see he needs the extra bulk when you compare him to players like Peacock, Graham, Carvell and Morley. Those are the top props in SL and that’s the bracket Fielden was in and the type of player we need.

That’s just what I’ve made of this season and I just don’t like what Noble has done for us this season.

I’m sure not everyone will agree and claim Noble is still a world class coach but I just can’t see.

I've said it before and I'll say it again - If some posters on here were allowed to run our club, they'd run it into the bloody ground (and yes that includes myself ).

IL knows what he's doing, its so blatently obvious BN won't be here next season that IMO no announcement is needed anymore!

As I just said on another thread! We Have been poor all season and yet with 3 more wins we could of finished second.

Super league is shocking and a joke!

Exactly but more worrying than that is it goes to show just how poor we have been this season.

This year we’ve lost to some poor teams and had to fight real hard to beat some as well.

Now I still don’t think all the players are as bad as people make out and I know we can’t continue down the same road we’ve been on for a few years now.

So what do we do?

The simple and most straight forward answer imo is to get rid of Noble and bring in a fresh approach.

How do you know?

And don't give us some 'round the houses' pile of self-justifying windbag drivel. Just tell us clearly and concisely how you know this to be 100% true. Think carefully, because it seems to me that your entire argument is hanging from this one nail.

By the way, you were a 'plonker' for calling someone out over some minor disagreement from days and days before, and quoting something completely irrelevant to try and prove you were correct after all. I think most folk would agree that was a fairly plonkerish thing to do.