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| Pretty sure this is one of those off season topics that we get every single season.
A ST presumes you will attend every game. If you do, then you can pay a max of £350 saving you £40 (or £3 a game). You then get discount in the club shop and a Magic ticket for half the price. Whilst it sounds a lot, you don't have to pay up front and can pay each month and get the exact same benefits. Buy it early and you save £7 a game.
Now if you pick and choose, or you can't make every game then you still get the chance to save. You can pay £112 for the big four games of the season rather than £120. You then get discount on Magic. Or if you'll attend say 8 games then you can pay £224 (plus a tenner fee) as opposed to £240. Not a big saving but you then get other discounts that may work for you and the more games you attend the more you save.
Apart from give tickets away for free how cheap do people want tickets to be?
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| Quote: Egg Chasing "
Apart from give tickets away for free how cheap do people want tickets to be?'"
Since you askedneed to go, start picking and choosing their games even more.
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| Quote: Egg Chasing "Apart from give tickets away for free how cheap do people want tickets to be?'" I think the auto-renew is probably the better value, but it's always an issue attracting new fans & getting them to fork out for & commit to a full season (especially if it's a family outing). Even without all other prices going through the roof.
One gripe I have, however, is that the wheelchair team's fixtures aren't included in the ST when all the other flavours are. I appreciate it's a different venue with additional costs, but shirly at least some concession could have been made (and there's parking to take into account too)?
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| I have an adult ST for the SS. I used the auto renewal option when it was first rolled out. My ST now costs me £165 for 13 matches working out at £12.69/match. When you consider the free admission to academy, reserve and women's matches, discounts on cup/play off/magic tickets/Wigan TV and at the club shop and the possibility of taking advantage of the scrum ticket deal I would say it is very good value.
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| Quote: dr_feelgood "I have an adult ST for the SS. I used the auto renewal option when it was first rolled out. My ST now costs me £165 for 13 matches working out at £12.69/match.'"
Website shows adult renewal price for 2023 is £212, early bird £265 and full price £295.
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| Quote: muttywhitedog "Website shows adult renewal price for 2023 is £212, early bird £265 and full price £295.'"
There is also an auto renewal price I believe
Based on the price you quoted my 3 would be 567 and I dont think I paid that (ill check tomorrow). In fact wife's just looked and it was 478 so roughly 80 cheaper for 3 tickets than renewal price, so wouldn't be surprised if what the gentleman says is correct.
Renewal means someone deciding to renew but it isn't automatically taken and you initiate the renewal.
Early bird is for new ST before X date.
Full price is as you say any new ST taken after the early bird date.
Hence why I said earlier its a much more complicated situation than the OP of saying that our cheapest ricket is the dearest cheapest ticket
It may be, by a few quid. But the rest of the offerings from Wigan are as good or better IMO for most clubs
Free till 8, don't think anyone else does that
Young adult prices to 24, not many if any do that
Seniors start at 60 (very few do this).
Juniors up to 18, most clubs only go up to 16 before going into another band
The junior prices like for like are very favourable, something like 45 for auto renewal up to 18!!!! In both stands. The east stand equivalent of this 15 plus years ago was 145 each, I know because I used to pay that for my 2 when they were 8& 6 and it was one of my complaints back then.
Now theyd pay about 90 for 2!!!!
Simplified prices I.e. sideline view or behind post view, not different grades of prices.
The Hull prices you quote and say 4/6 games free are very misleading in the brochure
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| Quote: Jukesays "There is also an auto renewal price I believe
Based on the price you quoted my 3 would be 567 and I dont think I paid that (ill check tomorrow). In fact wife's just looked and it was 478 so roughly 80 cheaper for 3 tickets than renewal price, so wouldn't be surprised if what the gentleman says is correct.'"
Okay - now at those prices it becomes an absolute no-brainer as you can afford to miss 3-4 of the 13 home fixtures and still be getting a decent deal.
That said, the prices for anyone thinking of buying a 2023 season ticket are too high IMHO for the reasons Ive already stated. Too many of the 13 games will not take place on the stated day/time and missing 2 games makes it unviable. At that point, the potential ST holder decides to pay game to game and if the weather looks bad, or its on TV then they sack that game off too. At the end of the season, they only attended 4 of the 13 games..
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| Quote: muttywhitedog "Okay - now at those prices it becomes an absolute no-brainer as you can afford to miss 3-4 of the 13 home fixtures and still be getting a decent deal.
That said, the prices for anyone thinking of buying a 2023 season ticket are too high IMHO for the reasons Ive already stated. Too many of the 13 games will not take place on the stated day/time and missing 2 games makes it unviable. At that point, the potential ST holder decides to pay game to game and if the weather looks bad, or its on TV then they sack that game off too. At the end of the season, they only attended 4 of the 13 games..'"
this is basically what i have been saying in my previous comments.
As a lapsed ST holder, i know there are 6 (poss 7) games i wont make this year due to commitments so financially not worth me purchasing a ST at full price. If i was on a renewal I would probably accept it as a one off, and accept that i wouldnt be saving that much. However, at approx 50 per match (if i got a ST), its too much, so i'm just going to go pay on the day for the games i can attend
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| Quote: The pieman "this is basically what i have been saying in my previous comments.
As a lapsed ST holder, i know there are 6 (poss 7) games i wont make this year due to commitments so financially not worth me purchasing a ST at full price. If i was on a renewal I would probably accept it as a one off, and accept that i wouldnt be saving that much. However, at approx 50 per match (if i got a ST), its too much, so i'm just going to go pay on the day for the games i can attend'"
I have said that maybe as a one off there should have been a "Covid" amnesty of some sort i.e. anyone having one say up to 5 years ago could get a Renewal price ST now?
But it's difficult to reduce Full price ST's too much - bearing in mind if people do want a New ST then can get one at the early bird price - as the whole reason for the incentive/cheaper price is to get people to pay earlier/up front etc.
Also game day price - I do agree that maybe 30 is a tad too much - but if you reduce too far there's less incentive for ST's
As I said previously - Judging Wigan on the Cheapest Full price ticket is unfair
People have the early bird reductions chance
The other price categories for U7's - Juniors/ And Junior up to 18 as opposed to 16/ Young Adult options & Seniors starting at 60
So there are multiple facets to the structure and we compare favourably
Said it before and will continue to say it - reducing tickets to 10/15 like some want isn;t the answer as it will drive revenues down in other areas and no way will we recouple that through new ST holders etc ad walk up extras
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| Quote: Jukesays "I have said that maybe as a one off there should have been a "Covid" amnesty of some sort i.e. anyone having one say up to 5 years ago could get a Renewal price ST now?
But it's difficult to reduce Full price ST's too much - bearing in mind if people do want a New ST then can get one at the early bird price - as the whole reason for the incentive/cheaper price is to get people to pay earlier/up front etc.
Also game day price - I do agree that maybe 30 is a tad too much - but if you reduce too far there's less incentive for ST's
As I said previously - Judging Wigan on the Cheapest Full price ticket is unfair
People have the early bird reductions chance
The other price categories for U7's - Juniors/ And Junior up to 18 as opposed to 16/ Young Adult options & Seniors starting at 60
So there are multiple facets to the structure and we compare favourably
Said it before and will continue to say it - reducing tickets to 10/15 like some want isn;t the answer as it will drive revenues down in other areas and no way will we recouple that through new ST holders etc ad walk up extras'"
i've no issues with Wigans pricing, and for a professional sport it is good value
my issue is a personal one, in that this season i know i will miss at least 6 games, so it doesnt make financial sense for me to purchase a ST
one thing i may have missed / misinterpreted is the early bird. Was that not only for ST holders or does it apply to everyone. I was always of the impression it was ST holders to retain their seat. If its not and i've got it wrong, then i will look at it for next season without doubt
i have had the benefit of the junior ticket previously when my daughter had one for approx 25 for the South Stand and also got a free ticket for the away matches
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Quote: The pieman "i've no issues with Wigans pricing, and for a professional sport it is good value
my issue is a personal one, in that this season i know i will miss at least 6 games, so it doesnt make financial sense for me to purchase a ST
one thing i may have missed / misinterpreted is the early bird. Was that not only for ST holders or does it apply to everyone. I was always of the impression it was ST holders to retain their seat. If its not and i've got it wrong, then i will look at it for next season without doubt
i have had the benefit of the junior ticket previously when my daughter had one for approx 25 for the South Stand and also got a free ticket for the away matches'"
Early Bird prices are for new season ticket holders or existing that miss the renewal deadline.
https://wiganwarriors.com/blog/2022/09/ ... s-on-sale/
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Quote: The pieman "i've no issues with Wigans pricing, and for a professional sport it is good value
my issue is a personal one, in that this season i know i will miss at least 6 games, so it doesnt make financial sense for me to purchase a ST
one thing i may have missed / misinterpreted is the early bird. Was that not only for ST holders or does it apply to everyone. I was always of the impression it was ST holders to retain their seat. If its not and i've got it wrong, then i will look at it for next season without doubt
i have had the benefit of the junior ticket previously when my daughter had one for approx 25 for the South Stand and also got a free ticket for the away matches'"
Early Bird prices are for new season ticket holders or existing that miss the renewal deadline.
https://wiganwarriors.com/blog/2022/09/ ... s-on-sale/
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| Quote: The pieman "i've no issues with Wigans pricing, and for a professional sport it is good value
my issue is a personal one, in that this season i know i will miss at least 6 games, so it doesnt make financial sense for me to purchase a ST
one thing i may have missed / misinterpreted is the early bird. Was that not only for ST holders or does it apply to everyone. I was always of the impression it was ST holders to retain their seat. If its not and i've got it wrong, then i will look at it for next season without doubt
i have had the benefit of the junior ticket previously when my daughter had one for approx 25 for the South Stand and also got a free ticket for the away matches'"
As Bored Wiganner says below Early Bird is a Discount for New ST requests
So the £295 quoted is 265 as an early bird - 212 if you get on the Renewal roundabout and even cheaper (I reckon 30/40 cheaper) if you auto renewal
So the 295 for 1 year may save you 1 game the year after
The 265 for an early bird may be say 2 and 1/2 games
But then the renewal at 212 will save you maybe 4 plus games after that
Whilst an Auto renewal (Which a previous poster said was £165 but I can;t confirm that) may take it up to a saving of say 6 games (Which to be honest is ridiculously cheap !!!!).
Sideline - Which I have
Renewal price: £235 - Saves you over 4 games
Early bird: £295 - Saves you 3 games ish
Full price £350 - Saves you 1 & 1/2 games approx
My Auto renewal was approx 205/210 saving me £190 on just mine - Thats a saving of over 6 games! Nearly half price
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| Plus the price of food, drinks ,car parking and programmes have gone up aswell
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| Quote: MR FRISK "Plus the price of food, drinks ,car parking and programmes have gone up aswell
Shock Horror
Things cost more in 2023 than they did in 2003 Surprise
(Note to self - Do not feed the Wind up Merchant!!!)
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| Quote: Jukesays "I have said that maybe as a one off there should have been a "Covid" amnesty of some sort i.e. anyone having one say up to 5 years ago could get a Renewal price ST now?
But it's difficult to reduce Full price ST's too much - bearing in mind if people do want a New ST then can get one at the early bird price - as the whole reason for the incentive/cheaper price is to get people to pay earlier/up front etc.
Also game day price - I do agree that maybe 30 is a tad too much - but if you reduce too far there's less incentive for ST's
As I said previously - Judging Wigan on the Cheapest Full price ticket is unfair
People have the early bird reductions chance
The other price categories for U7's - Juniors/ And Junior up to 18 as opposed to 16/ Young Adult options & Seniors starting at 60
So there are multiple facets to the structure and we compare favourably
Said it before and will continue to say it - reducing tickets to 10/15 like some want isn;t the answer as it will drive revenues down in other areas and no way will we recouple that through new ST holders etc ad walk up extras'"
Obviously everybody's income is not the same but generally I think that the prices are good particularly for children. I got my grandson's for £35 and my granddaughters for free. Absolutely fantastic.
I agree on your "COVID amnesty" suggestion but i also think we need something for new family season tickets.
My grandson plays at Judes and he is the only ST holder out of around 20 guys in his age group. If this is representative or even closely representative I find it very very worrying. Maybe a heavily discounted first year for families and an even higher discount if say 5 or more families are from an age group at an amatuer club. Maybe the club could hold "open nights" individually with each amatuer club specifically targeting new ST sales?
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