Been there done that in both the backs and the forwards.

We held a raffle for fans in 2019 to play in the pack we were that light, but you're right, the league should pause why the mighty Saints have injuries.

Yeah because that’s what I said.

So are you using injuries as an excuse or not? If not then you seem to have been crying about it for the last 6 weeks with a list of injuries shorter than pretty much everyone else.

We’ve just finished top despite injuries and bans so we’ve done okay overall.

Of course I’d like us to be at full strength as would every fan with their team.

I do also think we’ve been hard done by with the disciplinary too but that’s another story. How Sironen and Knowles come away with bans from Fridays game yet Farrell gets nothing for his late hit on Lomax is beyond me. By the letter of the law that’s a ban what he did. Wigan have been extremely lucky with bans this season. Other clubs apart from us have been hammered.

We haven't been lucky, we've been well disciplined, not our fault you've got a team full of headhunters

Sironen, Matautia and Knowles probably do get scrutinised more than most but there’s a reason for that. They keep making illegal challenges and have all been unable to stay on the right side of the rules this season. In the days of Maguire and at times Wane, Saints fans loved to call us grubs and they’re still doing so now, even though evidence suggests we’re a far far cleaner side. Now it’s a case that they’ve been harshly treated and are unlucky but we’re treated leniently.

It’s much the same with their hatred for Sam Tomkins in those days. A man who was the hero of a certain Jack Welsby and you can certainly tell that was the case. They didn’t have an issue with Welsby’s antics at Magic but they didn’t like Smith patting him on the head on Friday and we were the bullies. It’s one eyed support at its finest.

I can’t speak for all Saints fans obviously but that’s a side to Welsby I don’t like and I commented as such after Magic. He’s a young lad with a questionable temperament who will learn. He was awful on Friday and tried to do everything on his own and became more and more frustrated as the game went on and made subsequently more errors

However what I will say is that I don’t understand the love for what Smithies and Smith did. I was disappointed with our lads that they didn’t run in sooner and sort it.

From an England point of view we are in danger of creating hatred between the players like Saints and Leeds back in the day when they openly didn’t mix and their lack of mixing affected England. We aren’t far away from this now in my opinion.

Peet's had a word with Smith and Smithies about their reaction to Welsby, from a fans point of view he had it coming to him, but from a coaches point of view it's obviously unprofessional

Wasn't it at Magic Mr Notre dame did something similar to French???

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