Considering we have most of our first choice team out there this is pathetic.

Moved on from the Wire name LeBron Poky curry my mate?

When we have to actually throw the ball about we look even worse. The skill level within this side, the quality of coaching and the use of players is appalling. How many minutes did Byrne and Bullock put into that performance today? We carry so many players every week I just can’t wait for this season to end.

What the last two games have told me is keep the defensive coach and get a new coach who knows how to build clinical attacking options.

Absolutely.

What they’re doing with the ball in the week is beyond me.

Annoyingly have to give Warrington credit and ourselves. Thought both defended really well. Glad that Williams has put a big target for hatred on his own back too. I can't believe im going to say this but if it going to be us i hope Saints beat Wire in a grand final ore even better, a semi just for Williams. I must say though, I have been waiting for Smith to get a game where he had space to do as he wished. He got that today and his last play options were pretty atrocious on every play. The jury is deffo out on him for me now.

Lam happy again

I’ll be happy in three games time (maybe two)

Wigan just don't look like a team who do any attack work in training.

It's bewildering how average they are with ball in hand, especially given what a lethal presence Lammy was when he was on the field.

It's almost as if the Hail Mary Ball is now deemed a viable part of our attacking repertoire. Or perhaps the ONLY part.

I loved Lammy the player, but I'm really glad he's leaving the coaching role. This team look so undrilled in attack that it's untrue.

We’re so game in defence but I do wonder if we have to hang in there that much due to a size disadvantage, that we’re just so goosed when it comes to having the ball that players are too fatigued to push up in support or to run through the line to make space. I remember when Maguire came just being mesmerised by the amount of bodies moving when we had the ball, well now I’m just tired searching for somebody who will move. It’s got to be the coaching because that can’t all be fatigue.

As I said earlier at least it was competitive and in the balance till the end, which hasn't happened in the recent past. Stand by my view we were better but the same old issues remain - the one at the forefront today was the lack of linebreakers (No French, Field, Gildart etc).

An 'arm wrestle' (as the Sky lot refer to it) essentially refers to a game where both teams have decided to adopt a low risk approach where set completion is the main goal - the hope being the other side will crack first. We actually won the 2nd half arm wrestle but failed to put on a single attacking play in the set we had in their 20 (other than the high kick to Halsall). Which begs the question of why we are adopting the arm wrestle approach in the first place if we're not going to try and take advantage when we win?

We play like we do and barely even try for a repeat set, the very thing which would benefit our drab style.

I’m a lot happier with the effort put in. Thought we was the better team. Still lacking massively in attacking play.

Could anyone with any maths skills figure out whether we can still miss out on the top 6?

If Leeds Cas and HKR win their remaining games and we lose ours it's going down to fractions of % points

Hull KR play both Cas and Leeds in their last 2 so that isn't happening.