I'm of the opinion that the coaching team definitely needs some fresh ideas and would benefit from someone new coming in but I don't think it needs to be the head coach. Sure, Lam theoretically should have brought some fresh ideas to the side but you have to wonder how much research and homework was actually done before he was appointed, and how much was simply down to him being Radlinski's favourite ex-teammate and someone willing to be in charge for just a year. Any new idea won't help - we need good ideas!

I doubt there are many coaches that are genuinely good at every aspect of a head coach role. It makes sense that it's a team effort and that the assistant coaches can often play a big part. Matty Peet seems to be primarily our defensive coach and our defence got noticeably worse after he left and noticeably better when he returned. Even now our defence seems to be okay. Peet seems to be doing that job well. If he can pick the right players, motivate them, make the right decisions during a game then he can be a good head coach. But if he is to be head coach I think we definitely need to bring in a new assistant that can focus on the attacking aspects of the game.

Something which really irritates me regarding people who slate Wane is the fact he gets zero credit for games (and there were plenty of them) in which we played some very good rugby.

I'm not just talking end of seasons either nor am I just talking 2012. Some people seemingly love to critique those games and hammer Wane for instances where we won by grinding out results or when occasionally a really poor result would occur but those criticising never offset that by praising the excellent rugby we played time and time again during his tenure.

I really enjoyed some of the stuff we played under Shaun and although it may be an extremely unfashionable thing to say for some, it certainly isn't for me.

You only have to listen to the Out of Your League podcast with Sam Tomkins to get a feel for how Wane operates and how he drives standards upwards. I've also heard stories of when he became head coach how he'd insist on small things like everyone speaking to the coach driver when getting on and off especially to say thank you when exiting the coach. I love that sort've stuff.

Wane is a big yes from me as long as he doesn't conflict with whoever will be head coach. Can Wane work at Wigan and not be head coach? I think it could be a conflict of interest. I would assume he will stay on as England coach for another year so he can have a crack at the world cup but can he have his hand in without wanting to control it all?

Is that some kind of sick joke?

Move on from consistent success we had under Wane?

Had being the word - past performance is no indication of future performance. Like all the ex-players we've re-signed, None performed at their previous level.

well it cant be the present as hes not here....

He did but even then I was on here calling for him to go because I could see straight through him and see he was utterly useless. His game plan all along has been ‘give it to Hastings/French see if they can do something’. We’ve never had clear structure or an organised attack it’s been a total mess from the start. He should never have been kept here for so long

Agreed, I’ve been thinking it all year.

Bevan French’s unbelievable form in 2020 was the reason for our success.

i posted something very similar on warriors fans in a discussion as to whether SW would get more our of the current squad than AL

one of my points was that when SW brought kids in they knew the structure of the plays, so at times it looked seamless, yes it wasnt perfect, but it worked. Can anyone tell me what our current attacking structure is, and thus it is surely more difficult for them to be brought into the side, when it is clear that we dont have an attacking structure. We relied so heavily on JH / BF last year to pull some individual moments of magic to get us where we got to and it looks like AL doesnt have a clue what to do about it

Exactly this. I just hope his injury isn’t his Amos Roberts’ injury moment

The first couple of months under Lam in 2019 were alarming and I kept telling myself ‘give it 6 months’ to see if I could work out what the game plan was, what we were trying to do in attack but it never came. I’d have pulled the plug after 6 months. The worst thing that happened to us was we started to scrape together a run of extremely close victories. It was boring, it was all just effort based and we got absolutely found out in the play offs (in fact we were embarrassed). He should’ve gone at the end of 2019.

Agree

This 100%.

Nearly every big game we played in 2019 we didn't turn up, culminating in the pitiful play-off performances at the end. The alarm bells were ringing then but having messed up the Edwards situation the club had no plan B.