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| Quote: Lancastrian "Impossible question for me considering I have been watching Wigan since 1953 !'"
Saw my first Wigan game back in 1947 and if I was forced to select the best my pick would be Ellery H. As I have said on here before the best Wigan team performance I have ever seen was in the CC final in 1959. That team included Boston, Bolton, Ashton, Sullivan, Griffiths and of course McTigue the MOM.
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| Quote: Grimmy "Agreed. I like Radlinski there because of his defensive capabilities. Tomkins wouldn't be capable of doing what Radlinski did in the 02 Challenge Cup Final for example, and there were times when he came unstuck under the high ball. Plus it's not like Radlinski was a poor attacker either, not as devastating as Tomkins but he was the League's top try scorer in 01. Tomkins is the better player but Radlinski is the better full back IMO, hence why I pick Tomkins in the halves in these debates.'"
For once you make sense young Grimmy
Radlinski all the way for me, I also factor in a players attitude and how he treated the club, As we all know Tomkins was a bit of an when alcohol was involved also He binned us off twice for the lure of filthy lucre
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| Quote: MattyB "1982 start for me too! How lucky as Wigan fans have we been?
We could list a top twenty, top thirty, possibly even a top forty and those players would still be absolute top class. I bet we could do thirty players without even having to think hard about it (and still miss obvious choices out).
Sod it, here goes
Good players, but most of those not good enough to lace Tomkins boots imho.....
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| Quote: Lenners "Fair enough it's your opinion and i respect that.
My response--
How many pots has Lockers lifted as Wigan Captain in the last decade, widely regarded in Aus by the ockers as one of the best players in the world at the peak of his career.
England and Great Britain Captain for numerous years.
History will reflect very well on Lockers time as a Wigan player, one the greatest of all time without doubt.'"
less than Edwards, not as good as Farrell for me either
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| Lockers was (feels terrible typing was) a great player and certainly top 10 and maybe even five material in my time but Hanley and Farrell were a level above. There’s no shame in that as both were probably the best players in the World at various times. Faz would’ve smashed it in the NRL. Lockers would as well but Faz could do pretty much everything Lockers could but was also an unbelievable ball runner and was more of an individual threat running the ball. Hanley was just a freak.
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| Quote: NickyKiss "Lockers was (feels terrible typing was) a great player and certainly top 10 and maybe even five material in my time but Hanley and Farrell were a level above. There’s no shame in that as both were probably the best players in the World at various times. Faz would’ve smashed it in the NRL. Lockers would as well but Faz could do pretty much everything Lockers could but was also an unbelievable ball runner and was more of an individual threat running the ball. Hanley was just a freak.'"
Hard to judge Hanley properly as Wigan were the only fully pro team and it wasn't even a contest most of the time.
Tomkins done it against top Leeds, Saints, Wire teams.......
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| Quote: Shabino "Hard to judge Hanley properly as Wigan were the only fully pro team and it wasn't even a contest most of the time. '"
Good point.
Well, except we weren't and he also did it in Australia every year as well.
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| Quote: Shabino "Hard to judge Hanley properly as Wigan were the only fully pro team and it wasn't even a contest most of the time.
Tomkins done it against top Leeds, Saints, Wire teams.......'"
Tomkins was quite subdued against Leeds compared to in other games. I think there was extra spice in the fixture when he was at Wigan, and Leeds’ kick chase game stepped up a level to close him down.
You may not remember, but Hanley also did it in a Leeds, GB, West’s and Balmain shirt. He was on a different level.
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| Quote: Shabino "Hard to judge Hanley properly as Wigan were the only fully pro team and it wasn't even a contest most of the time.
Tomkins done it against top Leeds, Saints, Wire teams.......'"
Except Leeds were the first full time team
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| Quote: Shabino "Hard to judge Hanley properly as Wigan were the only fully pro team and it wasn't even a contest most of the time.
Tomkins done it against top Leeds, Saints, Wire teams.......'"
In the grand scheme of things Hanley didn’t play for Wigan for the majority of his career anyway (204 appearances out of a career total of 489). He played a very fare chunk of it at Wigan and was brilliant but he was brilliant for Bradford, brilliant for Balmain and brilliant for Great Britain. I read somebody say earlier he wasn’t at his best at Leeds but the guy still managed 106 try’s in 114 appearances from Loose Forward.
I love Lockers, Tomkins, Andy Farrell, Edwards, Offiah or whoever but Hanley is the top of the tree.
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| Quote: NickyKiss "In the grand scheme of things Hanley didn’t play for Wigan for the majority of his career anyway (204 appearances out of a career total of 489). He played a very fare chunk of it at Wigan and was brilliant but he was brilliant for Bradford, brilliant for Balmain and brilliant for Great Britain. I read somebody say earlier he wasn’t at his best at Leeds but the guy still managed 106 try’s in 114 appearances from Loose Forward.
I love Lockers, Tomkins, Andy Farrell, Edwards, Offiah or whoever but Hanley is the top of the tree.'"
Hanley was definitely still elite playing for Leeds. You guys won’t like the comparison, but he was similar to Danny McGuire in that he was 2 or 3 plays ahead. Ellery would just be more obvious in standing 10 metres In front of the his own teams play the ball when he knew a break would be made.
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| Quote: Les Norton "Hanley was definitely still elite playing for Leeds. You guys won’t like the comparison, but he was similar to Danny McGuire in that he was 2 or 3 plays ahead. Ellery would just be more obvious in standing 10 metres In front of the his own teams play the ball when he knew a break would be made.
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Wire_91 wrote:its your first final in about 8 years and now you ravin and rantin about it F**k off, and ill be going old trafford tomoz cheering on the saints and ill be writing on this forum givin you loads of shi* when your drying you eyes and the wire fan will be here handing out the tissues in the thousands, thats if you do take that many fans cause now it looks like its your fans who have jumped on the band wagon now your in a final, this time last year there was only 1000 people in the jjb and now its fillin up cause youve won the league hahaha proper true supporters you are:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_27542.jpg |
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| Quote: Les Norton "Tomkins was quite subdued against Leeds compared to in other games. I think there was extra spice in the fixture when he was at Wigan, and Leeds’ kick chase game stepped up a level to close him down.
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Yes you’re right, thinking about it.
But that game in the summer of 2012 50-8win at Leeds he was on another planet.
Although Leeds got the better of Wigan that year.
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| Quote: Pieman "Except Leeds were the first full time team
Does anyone have the facts around this? Being the only professional team seems to be thrown at us a lot but I'm struggling to find anything written to confirm or deny it.
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| Quote: Grimmy "Does anyone have the facts around this? Being the only professional team seems to be thrown at us a lot but I'm struggling to find anything written to confirm or deny it.'"
There's loads of stuff out there. Just look at the players that came over and ask, did they come for free?
Mal Meninga playing for Saints, Blocker Roach at Wire, Peter Sterling at Hull.
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