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[quote="Frank Zappa":1sacjrvf]Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe.[/quote:1sacjrvf] [quote="The_Enforcer":1sacjrvf]Most idiotic post ever goes to Grimmy..... The way to restart should be an arm wrestle between a designated player from each side.[/quote:1sacjrvf]:



Quote: dany1979 "There was a time when he had only played a game and some Saints supporters were talking him up in relation to his potential.

In fact some people were talking him up before he had played a game for them.

That didn’t make them delusional, just excited by what he might go on to become.

For the record they were spot on.'"

He had played 28 first team games before he even got there, and I don't remember them calling him world class or an improved version of Hock at that point. Even now that would be premature.

Did you follow London academy regularly in 2019 or are you literally just basing this off a 20 minutes stint in the first team and some highlights of his best moments against other youngsters? If he does what he did in those highlights against grown men in Super League then fair enough, but that's a big jump. Kibula ran wild at that level, he will be plying his trade on loan at Newcastle this year. EggChasing lookatme! icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Egg Chasing "Possibly based on his 50 career appearances elsewhere.

How many does KPP have?

Obviously I hope you are all right and he becomes a superstar in a Wigan shirt, but as Grimmy said in his pretty impressive post, if he doesn't then he won't be the first player we have hailed as a star with very little substance that has turned out to be nothing of the sort.'"


No, for some supporters it was based on minimal game time for Saints, in fact even one of our more high profile supporters tweeted something similar.

That’s part of watching sport, sometimes you get it right and sometimes not but it would be pretty boring if everyone waited for x amount of games before giving any sort of opinion, especially a positive one.

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Quote: Grimmy "He had played 28 first team games before he even got there, and I don't remember them calling him world class or an improved version of Hock at that point. Even now that would be premature.

Did you follow London academy regularly in 2019 or are you literally just basing this off a 20 minutes stint in the first team and some highlights of his best moments against other youngsters? If he does what he did in those highlights against grown men in Super League then fair enough, but that's a big jump. Kibula ran wild at that level, he will be plying his trade on loan at Newcastle this year. EggChasing lookatme!
Purely based on that Saints game and the video, I thought he was impressive and looked to have a lot of potential.

If you think that’s delusional then fine but I’m all for supporters posting different opinions and I’ve never found the need to label it as embarrassing.

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Bentley is 4 years older that KPP

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Fans Forum 28.08.08 Fan from Haydock "I've got one word for you Mr Chairman - Penalty Count" [quote="The Daddy"]I've got one word for you all......Steve Hanley[/quote] Some Salford fan said to me and I quote "You are by far and away the most Handsome & Knowledgeable Rugby League Fan in England!" I thanked him and went on my Merry way! RIVERCAVE DWELLER OF THE YEAR 2015! "The club used you last night and didn't tell the truth." Officially one of the 119 Mugs used by the club:icons077e_files/5454-3678dentheman-msnicons.jpg



Quote: Grimmy "Why will no one try to impress me?
If your trying to impress Egg Chasing whos trying to impress me then your a long way off me trying to impress you!!! (I think we should clarify here that we have never met and I have no idea who you are as I can see people replying saying were ins omw kind of clique!).

Stating on Topic (and bear with as this is just a joke)

Hes played 20 minutes in the 1st team and they think he's special
Hes made an average 8mtrs per carry and they think he's great
Hes missed 2 tackles which isn't Brill
That don't Impress me much !
Hes got the moves but as he got the touch!

Sorry guys!!! icon_surprised.gifops: icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Jukesays "If your trying to impress Egg Chasing whos trying to impress me then your a long way off me trying to impress you!!! (I think we should clarify here that we have never met and I have no idea who you are as I can see people replying saying were ins omw kind of clique!).

Stating on Topic (and bear with as this is just a joke)

Hes played 20 minutes in the 1st team and they think he's special
Hes made an average 8mtrs per carry and they think he's great
Hes missed 2 tackles which isn't Brill
That don't Impress me much !
Hes got the moves but as he got the touch!

Sorry guys!!!

Thought you was on about Tony Chubb then??

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Fans Forum 28.08.08 Fan from Haydock "I've got one word for you Mr Chairman - Penalty Count" [quote="The Daddy"]I've got one word for you all......Steve Hanley[/quote] Some Salford fan said to me and I quote "You are by far and away the most Handsome & Knowledgeable Rugby League Fan in England!" I thanked him and went on my Merry way! RIVERCAVE DWELLER OF THE YEAR 2015! "The club used you last night and didn't tell the truth." Officially one of the 119 Mugs used by the club:icons077e_files/5454-3678dentheman-msnicons.jpg



Quote: JonnyBroad "Thought you was on about Tony Chubb then??'"


Those stats would be impressive for BFT compared to his over the last 2 years!!!

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This whole topic just shows how little we have to talk about. It seems to be a spat between the glass half full brigade and the glass half empty. It is nice to think that there might be talented players moving through the ranks but I doubt that few of us are much more than hopeful that this youngster might eventually be the finished article. It is really sad to see the negativity though that this topic has created. There must be a few of you who go down a scream at parties. Perhaps we should ban all positive threads because they cause a spittle flecked response from the land of the trolls. I think the main point of the original post was that the poster hoped that KPP would kick on after a reasonably positive start. Sadly the straw men came out suggesting that KPP had been identified as the second coming. Perhaps we should all just decide that this year we are going to be relegated and just give up. It sounds like a convention of nihilists.

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He's getting a nice write up again in The Post, looks like he might be first in line if Farrell/Bateman are missing

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Quote: apollosghost "He's getting a nice write up again in The Post, looks like he might be first in line if Farrell/Bateman are missing'"


Read that and it does seem like they’re excited about him. He’ll need to get past Smithies, Isa and possibly Partington and also in front of Shorrocks but it’s a long season and I’m looking forward to seeing more of it. I’m hoping to see a lot more of Ben Kilner as well this season. If we’re talking about impressive one off performances against Saints, he probably showed up better than anyone and he’s of an age now where the breakthrough needs to come.

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Quote: apollosghost "He's getting a nice write up again in The Post, looks like he might be first in line if Farrell/Bateman are missing'"

Decent interview with him on Wigan TV too. Excited to see him play

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Quote: NSW "Decent interview with him on Wigan TV too. Excited to see him play'"


He interviews really well.
Speaks fluently and with confidence.
Hope he gets to shine on the pitch as well in the coming season.

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Quote: NickyKiss "Read that and it does seem like they’re excited about him. He’ll need to get past Smithies, Isa and possibly Partington and also in front of Shorrocks but it’s a long season and I’m looking forward to seeing more of it. I’m hoping to see a lot more of Ben Kilner as well this season. If we’re talking about impressive one off performances against Saints, he probably showed up better than anyone and he’s of an age now where the breakthrough needs to come.'"


I agree about Kilner and for me he could be as promising as Havard. I’m looking forward to seeing the crop of youngsters this season.

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I wouldn’t be totally shocked if he played a bit of front row this year kpp. Says he has put some timber on. He is certainly big enough to play there?

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[quote="Frank Zappa":1sacjrvf]Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe.[/quote:1sacjrvf] [quote="The_Enforcer":1sacjrvf]Most idiotic post ever goes to Grimmy..... The way to restart should be an arm wrestle between a designated player from each side.[/quote:1sacjrvf]:



Quote: JonnyBroad "I wouldn’t be totally shocked if he played a bit of front row this year kpp. Says he has put some timber on. He is certainly big enough to play there?'"

Nah don't think we'll see him there even for a game. Besides the fact he's never played there, it's also a position we have a lot of players already competing for spots. He has way less competition at second row, and even less at centre. We are already weak at prop without throwing in a 19 year old who's never played there before. Maybe later in his career if he makes it as we've seen other players do.

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