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Quote: sergeant pepper "This reads like it was a different injury to his other shoulder issues...

rlhttps://www.nrl.com/news/2019/12/06/souths-have-cash-to-splash-after-burgess-retirement-declared-salary-cap-exempt/rl

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rlhttps://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/the-interesting-insight-into-sam-burgess-shoulder-injuries/rl

4 surgeries on the same shoulder, they said they dont know if it started in 2008 or the most recent one so like I said.

GI wasnt medically retired but got that from the NRL - ‘The NRL had decided to treat the Inglis case similar to a medical retirement, whereby the full payment to the player is included in the salary cap for the season in which he is injured but not the following year’ - So now that he’s not retired, this no longer applies?

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Quote: Pieman "rlhttps://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/the-interesting-insight-into-sam-burgess-shoulder-injuries/rl

4 surgeries on the same shoulder, they said they dont know if it started in 2008 or the most recent one so like I said.

GI wasnt medically retired but got that from the NRL - ‘The NRL had decided to treat the Inglis case similar to a medical retirement, whereby the full payment to the player is included in the salary cap for the season in which he is injured but not the following year’ - So now that he’s not retired, this no longer applies?'"


By 'They said', do you mean a physio on Twitter? The NRL said it wasn't pre-existing, so one of them is lying?

I have no idea when it comes to Inglis.

I'll still stand by my original comment however, I can't see any insurance firm willingly paying out for a pre-existing injury.

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Quote: sergeant pepper "By 'They said', do you mean a physio on Twitter? The NRL said it wasn't pre-existing, so one of them is lying?

I have no idea when it comes to Inglis.

I'll still stand by my original comment however, I can't see any insurance firm willingly paying out for a pre-existing injury.'"


Insurance companies dont tend to pay out willingly for anything. How recently have you tried to claim on your car or home / contents insurance icon_smile.gif.

what they will do is increase the premium that is paid to get cover. For example, my father in law had a history of heart problems, so his insurance to go abroad was significantly greater than i would pay. I would assume that something similar would apply with sportsmen. If they have a known injury, then the club is likely to pay a higher premium for someone with an existing condition v an 18 year old with no existing injuries.

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Quote: sergeant pepper "By 'They said', do you mean a physio on Twitter? The NRL said it wasn't pre-existing, so one of them is lying?

I have no idea when it comes to Inglis.

I'll still stand by my original comment however, I can't see any insurance firm willingly paying out for a pre-existing injury.'"


im quite sure he would be uninsurable if thats what your saying, he wouldnt be allowed to play without full cover

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Quote: Pieman "im quite sure he would be uninsurable if thats what your saying, he wouldnt be allowed to play without full cover'"

i wonder if it is like getting insurance if you live on a floodplain or near to a volcano where you are covered for everything except that specific risk. So if George drowns or is hit by a lava bomb then no problem.

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Think we're all making big guesses about things we don't really understand if we're honest. The fact we see so few instances of players medically retiring should tell us that it's not that easy to do. Wigan are hardly in the unique situation of having a crock under contract.

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Hopefully Burgess retires as does Clubb and we use that money to buy a couple of decent props. For some reason we cannot seem to recruit established props and why do we keep signing Clubb up? He's 4 years past his use by date, he wouldn't get in the St Pats team.

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Quote: Grimmy "We let these guys forgo further education, or getting skills and experience in a career, give them a short term contract in the knowledge that we'll wash our hands of them at the end of it if they lose form or get injured. I don't think it's unfair of him to see out his contract when he's given up all that. He presumably has a family to provide for and a lot of these guys don't have a lot of job opportunities beyond rugby. He's trying to get fit and be a good player for Wigan, that is doing the decent thing too. These aren't just pieces of meat who exist solely for our entertainment.'"


There's nothing to stop players getting an education alongside their playing career. I know it's Union, but Jamie Roberts notably trained as a doctor while playing, which is perhaps among the most labour intensive forms of education out there. I think Liam Colbon got a degree while he was with us. Even if training is 4 hours a day (which I doubt), that would still leave ample time to study part-time.

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Quote: Jukesays "Oooohh ooh ooh!
I think 8 know the answer to this one

Is it "None"?

(Just like he had no proof that all the staff at leigh knew they'd got un SL before either was announced, when corrected never to be seen on that thread again.)'"



Instead of just spending your life swiping at what others say, what is your constructive opinion on the club signing Burgess?

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Quote: The pieman "what proof have you got of this?'"



What proof is needed for something so obvious!

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "Burgess had and passed a medical before he signed for Wigan.'"



By whom?

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Quote: Levrier "i wonder if it is like getting insurance if you live on a floodplain or near to a volcano where you are covered for everything except that specific risk. So if George drowns or is hit by a lava bomb then no problem.'"


but would ned to be fully insured to play the game, quite sure its part of the club, sure maybe the premiums go up but he will need that cover

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Quote: Ruddy Duck "By whom?'"



He had and passed a medical in Australia, a process that is quite normal for players playing "down under" and coming to play over here.

btw so did John Bateman.

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Here's what I expect will happen.

George Burgess will retire on medical grounds. Nice words will be said by all parties involved but there will be a non disclosure clause in his contract release, again something that is quite common in these type of circumstances.

edit :- There may be some indication when the accounts for the year are published, which could be in one or two years time.

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "Here's what I expect will happen.

George Burgess will retire on medical grounds. Nice words will be said by all parties involved but there will be a non disclosure clause in his contract release, again something that is quite common in these type of circumstances.

edit

If that happens and i have no reason to doubt it would, does his salary count Vs the cap?

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