Our usual crowds would be at 50% or so of the ground capacity and that would clearly be too much in the current climate but I don’t see why grounds couldn’t run at 10/20% of capacity for example. If they’re saying people can go to pubs, restaurants etc. were you’re sat inside and now with colder weather coming any decent ventilation is unlikely, you can go on an aeroplane in a confined space with 200-500 other people etc then it seems strange to say you can’t go and sit in the open air, metres away from other people to watch live sport. Yes you may need to stagger exits from stadium by block or similar, you may need one way systems to go to the toilet, you may need to get apps in place to order food/drink, local pubs may need to do bookings only on match days to limit numbers, you may have to encourage people to use their own transport where possible but it seems very doable in comparison.

I’m not saying it should be done now or moaning about it, people’s health comes first but you can understand sports clubs owners/chief Execs being confused that pubs, restaurants and airlines are being given leeway when their circumstances are probably even harder to make secure and police.

rlGerman footballrl managed to get fans back in fairly reasonably. Then again, they've got everything under a bit more control over there.

You are right in saying it is to save money, but at the same time games could have been organise better. For example, why have both teams from east of the pennines playing on the opposites side of the pennines and vice versa. Surely it would have made more sense for the "Yorkshire" based clubs to play their home games at Headingley and the "Lancashire based clubs to play their home games at Warrington. That way, Sky would have saved even more money as their equipment would only be at two grounds and not four as been the case up to now plus clubs would be saving money in not having unnecessary travel costs to play a all "Yorkshire game in Lancashire and a all "Lancashire" game in Yorkshire which also happened in recent weeks.

As for Wembley, I feel sure that they would be willing to overlook any contract in the present pandemic situation and the expense and travel involved to both finalists from what is a minority sport.

Not a rant, just one of many with better organising skills!

Kick off been brought forward 30 mins due to new closing times.

I would assume that the cost of cancelling the booking of Wembley and hiring another venue was greater than the cost of playing at an empty but already booked Wembley. The loss of crowd money would be the same either way. Sticking with Wembley also lessens the possibility of fans of the competing finalists travelling to and gathering outside the stadium as they could more easily have done that for a final in the north.

The 1932 cup final was played at Central Park not Swinton. Swinton played in that final, losing to Leeds.

Correct, it was held at Central Park, but how many others spotted the mistake?

Fair point, given the amount of idiots out there you’d probably be right in saying there’d be issues with some.

I thought you were against a fans return?

I am. I think the risk when people are leaving is too high. As explained in the part of my quote you deleted.

I agree with you it’s when fans are leaving the bottle necks occur,I’m sure people for a game or two would be very polite but soon enough the ruck to get out would be back.

At present it’s simply not worth it

So that means I can't have an opinion on how to distribute tickets?

No mention of tickets here. It sounds like you're in favour of a fans return to some capacity which is what i have been saying on the VT that you've been challenging.

Talking hypothetical, If the government said they would be prepared to trial a pilot scheme for the challenge cup final with a certain amount of fans to be allowed in, and Wigan made the final.Would you want to attend? or by your principal, you would rather not,so as to not take the risk of catching Covid?

You are either for or against a fans return. You have made it clear on the VT that you're totally against it, yet on here you talk as if it could be possible as shown in the quote above.

Simply because it contradicts the first part of your post,so i quoted the part that was relevant.You are either for or against a fans return,which one is it?

I am against it. I think the risk when people are leaving is too high. As explained in the part of my quote you deleted.