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Quote: Pieman "he has to carry some of the blame yes, you put yourself in a dangerous position and accidents can happen, didnt say Clare per say neither I said "attackers" so meaning all who do it'"

Watch it again, Clare doesn't back in, he is spun round by Havard and Smithies.

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Quote: Grimmy "Watch it again, Clare doesn't back in, he is spun round by Havard and Smithies.'"


I'm trying to stay out of this as I agree it should be a ban, I just think so a touch harsh given what's gone before but as I said earlier que sera
Anyway, Clare dips his head into the chest of Smithies after the initial contact, which leaves Smithies in a difficult position being over the top of him, what he did from there wasnt great and as havard etc are turning him he needs to release somehow and certainly not lose his feet so he has little control.

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Quote: Jukesays "I'm trying to stay out of this as I agree it should be a ban, I just think so a touch harsh given what's gone before but as I said earlier que sera
Anyway, Clare dips his head into the chest of Smithies after the initial contact, which leaves Smithies in a difficult position being over the top of him, what he did from there wasnt great and as havard etc are turning him he needs to release somehow and certainly not lose his feet so he has little control.'"



see the problem here is, its not a crusher tackle, in the known sense, its not one of these where the attacker has turned his back and dropped to the floor and the defender (on his back) comes down on top and forces the neck forwards as they come to the floor.

i have a degree of sympathy with smithies here as its one of those combined effort situations, like you see with tip tackles, one person picking a leg up is ok, 2 people doing it at the same time not realising the first person is doing it, is where it goes out of control, and then you ask, who's actually to blame?

smithies holding on, whilst the body is turned by others is turned is what causes the injury.

That being said, i cringed the moment i saw clare with his head down and smithies had the double underhooks, i used to do BJJ and thats a scary ing position to be in, in terms of body control, even one on one

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Quote: Grimmy "Watch it again, Clare doesn't back in, he is spun round by Havard and Smithies.'"


Like I said I didnt say Clare per say I said attackers

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Quote: Fantastic Mr Catpiss "see the problem here is, its not a crusher tackle, in the known sense, its not one of these where the attacker has turned his back and dropped to the floor and the defender (on his back) comes down on top and forces the neck forwards as they come to the floor.

i have a degree of sympathy with smithies here as its one of those combined effort situations, like you see with tip tackles, one person picking a leg up is ok, 2 people doing it at the same time not realising the first person is doing it, is where it goes out of control, and then you ask, who's actually to blame?

smithies holding on, whilst the body is turned by others is turned is what causes the injury.

That being said, i cringed the moment i saw clare with his head down and smithies had the double underhooks, i used to do BJJ and thats a scary loving position to be in, in terms of body control, even one on one'"


I agree, and one person gets the suspension on the back of what 3/4 other players (Including the attacker) have done.
End of the day he needs to do better, but it is a strange one where someone takes the full punishment when others actions have contributed

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